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Mon, Dec 4, 2017 7:16 PM

BUG LR 7.0.1 "Set Default Develop Settings" does not create preset - therefore can't apply it upon import

LR previously supported the creation of a Develop Preset that was automatically applied at input time by Camera and ISO.  This is valuable because it allows for customized sharpening by sensor and noise reduction by ISO.  This no longer works in 7.0.1

When in the Develop module, pressing Option+Set Default ... brings up a dialogue box to change the default settings for Camera and ISO.  Pressing "update to Current Settings" no longer creates a preset therefore it can't be applied at import.  This preset was created in previous versions of LR and applied correctly.  An example of the preset would be 5D IV ISO 640.

I got around this by manually creating the preset in the correct file name format, and it was correctly applied at import (automatically by ISO) so the problem is caused because the preset is not created in "User Presets".  I believe this is a relptily new bug. 

My Preferences are set to:  Presets: Make defaults specific to camera ISO setting
Store Preset with this catalog is NOT set. 

To fix this problem, create the develop preset in Users Presets when the "Update to Current Settings" button is pressed.

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3 years ago

I believe you are confused and remember this incorrectly. Nothing has changed as far as I know. You can apply a develop preset on import by selecting that preset in the import dialog. Or you can add certain settings as the default camera settings (by pressing Option + Default), but that does not create a preset and as far as I remember it never did.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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3 years ago

Sorry, I am not confused But regardless however it doesn’t work - noting happens on import, this is a new bug and it needs a fix. I presume you commented without teasing it - correct?

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I'm not sure why applying a preset on import doesn't work for you, because it certainly works for me. I just tried it again to make sure and it works fine. Adding certain settings to the default camera settings also works fine.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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3 years ago

"When in the Develop module, pressing Option+Set Default ... brings up a dialogue box to change the default settings for Camera and ISO.  Pressing "update to Current Settings" no longer creates a preset therefore it can't be applied at import.  This preset was created in previous versions of LR and applied correctly.  An example of the preset would be 5D IV ISO 640."
Johan Elzenga is correct. The above procedure changes LR's Default Develop Settings, which does not create a Develop Preset. See the below article for more details on how this works:

http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2016/02/customizing-the-default-setting-for-acr-and-lightroom.html

This will cause all future imports for the designated camera serial number and ISO setting to have the new Default Develop Settings applied "automatically" without selecting a Develop Preset.

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3 years ago

Sorry you have missed the point  -  which is that in LR 7.0.1 that no applies any changes to the default at all at import time.  That is why I opened the bug report and thats what needs to be fixed.

I will open another bug report and state it this way.  Perhaps it was wrong of me to report this bug is related  to the creation of a preset, however the import does apply edits if a preset exists - as its an Adobe bug its not my intent to explain to explain how it should work, just how it works on my system now.   I would appreciate it you would test any responses (actually do an import) before making comments as this legitimate bug report has gone of the rails and thus may not be fixed.

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No, we didn't miss the point. What you are saying in your new bug report is completely different from what you said initially. You were talking about a preset that should have been created when you update the default camera settings, which is simply not true.

What you are saying now is something I can confirm, however. This is indeed a bug.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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I won't go on with this post any longer but for the record, if I did create a develop preset then I could see the 'default edits' immediately at import, if there was no preset I could not.  Thats what I reported as thats what I was aware of at the time,  but was unaware when I wrote the post that shutting down and restarting would fix the problem.  I didn't bother posting anything about the 'presets' in the second posting, even though it would be useful in debugging as it caused so much unnecessary banter.  Hopefully they can put two and two together.  I am really having a problem with the 'social' end of this bug reporting - having trouble seeing the value as my initial bug report is just as relevant as the first. 

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I think you are still missing the point. The default camera setting has nothing to do with presets, even though both can be used to apply certain settings on import.

If you create a preset AS WELL as change the default settings, and you apply this preset on import, then this would indeed mask the bug you found. However, that is just a coincidence. Because you apply the same settings twice if you do this, you won't see it if one of the two doesn't work.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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3 years ago

See Lightroom Classic 7.0.1: Set default Develop Settings not applied at import unless Lightroom is restarted - I'll have the eng team take a look. I'll leave that issue open. Shall I close out this thread?

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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3 years ago

Sure, thanks

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Fine with me.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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Fine with me.