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Sun, Oct 14, 2018 7:09 PM

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Adobe Service software to auto upade adobe catalogue with out need lightroom classic left running all the time

It would be nice if we can get an Adobe service to update catalogue from Adobe Cloud with out needing to have lightroom classic open. I leave my lightroom classic running all the time so pictures taken from my phone can sync into the catalogue with in lightroom classic on my PC because that is the source of where my physically files are stored. 

Image, you take pictures on mobile and they are already in your catalog when you launch lightroom classic. 

To add to this. My primary cloud service right now is amazon photos and google photos.

Since I am also syncing my core location for photos in Amazon Drive. I have to on a regular basis run the SYNC folder option in Lightroom classic so the catalogue stays sync. It would be nice if an adobe software could keep check the locations I have listed in lightroom classic, and auto import the photos

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2 years ago

What would be the advantage of having an ‘Adobe service’ running all the time and keeping the Lightroom catalog open all the time over doing that with Lightroom itself like you do now?

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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have a service in theory should take up less resources over the entire application running. 

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2 years ago

You are far too trusting in Adobe.  I'd rather buy the Brooklyn Bridge from some seedy guy wearing a dirty trenchcoat than trust those idiots in San Jose to care for images accumulated over 36 years.

When the catalog is open; that is , running, it is dynamic.  Copying it to anywhere...the cloud or an external drive is an accident waiting for a time to happen.  The SQlite database which Lightroom uses does not have fifth-, or even fourth-level referential integrity.  You will wind up with a corrupted catalog, as I inadvertedly did back in October 2017, when reading from an open catalog.  (Fortunately, Victoria Brampton gave me the bame of a database guru at Adobe who repaired the catalog, else I would have been uo that famous creek without a paddle).

Be careful what you wish for...you might get it.

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LOL, that is one way to look at it. Thanks for the feedback of the catalogue being in SQlite. I never did stop to look up how they where doing the database with in the catalogue. 

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Adobe took the cheap way out years ago.  SQLite is free.  MS SQL or Oracle are not.  You get what you pay for.  Frankly, I'd be willing to pay more for Lightroom sitting on top of MS SQL or Oracle.  The improvement in performance would be worth the price of adimission.

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It would be interesting to see how much more the consumer would have to pay if they put out a full DB like that. They also could of used something like maria DB, postgreSQL, etc.... as well........ or hell they could still go apache for free -- Apache Cassandra

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Not all that much.  In my professional life outside of photography, I deal with DBs all the time in a regulaltedenvironment.  I would hazard a guess of about $1-$2 per annual license, which amortized over an annual subscription would be virtually nothing.

From the Adobe side, they would be realize a $40K - $100K outlay, and that would have be burdened unless and until the subscription numbers caught up.  It's not that much in the grans scheme of things.

The real issue is the change in coding effort that Adobe would have to implement order to fulfill the requirements of a real relational database with fourth- or fifth-referential integrity.  This is the show-stopper in my opinion.  No one at Adobe has the balls to move forward with this effort.  They are too busy implementing useless features like facial recognition and GPS to address the real problems under the hood.  Anything to satisfy the iPhone snapshot crowd.

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Thats to bad, because I would def pay more to have a more sturdy software for indexing and sorting my photos. 

I am no pro by any means and I wouldn't really want to insult the hobbyist and say I am that. I am a tech guy at heart and have a canon that i like to leave on auto and point and shot things in Raw and play with lightroom to organise and touch up the colors

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I hear you.  Might point is that Adobe has forgotten the working pros, but they've also forgoten the amateurs—or learned to ignore them as they don't tend to complain—in order to move to a business model predicated on one thing...volume.  Volume.  Volume.

Increase the volume of the subscriber base, because it is a statistical fact that less than 10% of any population tends to complain.   Do this, and your software can be as crappy as can be because virtually no one will complain, and therefore they can be unheard.

If the pros or 'complainants' drop Lightroom, it's no big deal.  It's a 10% loss for Adobe—IF everyone who is disgruntled leaves; and that's a big if—and an increase in volume with a program which can now be stripped down as thos e pesky pros have abandoned the program have left and won't might at all.

For Adobe, it is a Win-Win scenario.  Reminds me of the caterer in the old Fred Flintstones cartoons who sent the Rockettes to the birthday party for Bam-bam and the clown to the adult lodge.  When Fred and Barney bitched, he replied: "Well, I'm the only caterer in town!"

Nothing's changed.

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I just recently found out about on1, have you messed around with anything else ?

For me I need a product that does the organisation of photos along with adjust colors, etc...

https://www.on1.com/

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I hav ebeen using it off and on for a couple of years.  The problem has been the migration path from Lightroom to anything else.  ON1 is promising an AI-based migration for their 2019 version that will take care for the collections, smart collections, keywords, and post-processing presets.  If that works for a catalog of 3.5M images, I am gone.

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Lets start up another post some where else for the topic of following ON1 progress. I would love to follow a thread your on for that topic. 

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I agree.  Let me download the ON1 Raw 2019 next month and I'll start something (if someone else doesn't beat me to it.)

I don't get too worried about the critiques from others when the software is in its nascent stage.  Think about Lightroom years ago...same old crap was said about it.  Some was true, some not.

Software has a shelf life.  You don't believe?  Then tell me where is Word Pro, Word Perfect, WordStar, Lotus 1-2-3, Lotus Approach, Lotus Notes, Quatro Pro, Ventura Publisher, and on and on and on.  A software program which is 10 years old is ancient, ready to die (unless the developers pull their collective heads out of their butts and innovate and NOT succumb to 'featuritis.').

My fear is that Adobe has not seen the writing on the wall.  Perhaps they forgot how to read English; they can only read bloated code?