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Thu, Oct 27, 2011 1:45 PM

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Revel: Ability to organize photos by attributes other than date captured

Hello,

I was so greatly excited when Carousel was announced - but apparently it will be a great disappointment...
There is apparently no support for folders! Pictures just get organized by date?

That makes no sense at all - in private use everyone organises pictures by subjects:
"Birthday of X"
"Vacation in Y"
...

I have my photos organized in folders just as described - I have now uploaded them to carousel but can only see the organization by dates.

Am I missing some setting??

Cheers!

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40K Points

7 years ago

Ben-

If you had a photoshop.com subscription, then you received a refund at the time of migration for the remainder of the subscription. All new users of Revel get 30 days of unlimited uploads and then revert to a free subscription with a 50 upload monthly limit. Those who desire more can subscribe monthly or annually.

Keep checking back as we add many cool, new, desirable features to each release. Can you tell me what your most desirable sorting mechanism would be? In a perfect world, which ways would you use a sort feature regularly? We value our customer's feedback and love having their input so that we can make the products that you hope for.

Pattie

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4.3K Points

9 years ago

Hi Piotr and Filippus,

The Adobe Carousel app does sort all of the photos by date within a carousel. You can have up to five different carousels associated with your account though (each of these being a separate collection of photos) and each carousel having a unique name. So you could set up five different main categories (carousels) to divide up the photos. The photos themselves inside each carousel are sorted by date. There isn't a way to sort other than by date within a carousel currently (happens automatically). If you have ideas for how you would like to see additional organizational options be added into future versions we welcome suggestions and ideas.

Thanks,

-Dave

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220 Points

Yes, I have an idea....un-automate it! Let people upload photos in the same order they are in their albums to begin with.

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60 Points

I will subscribe only when carousel sorting is fixed. Even the dates are not in order. Photos are organized by size to fit a page. Make it free for a year, I might invest my time then.

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220 Points

I was happy with Photoshop.com. When we were switched to Revel I expected the functionality to be the same. I spent 4 days organizing 1300 photos by name. Then surprise surprise, what is it they say, "assume makes an a__ of u and me", in this case I expected the functionality to be the same as Photoshop.com, certainly not worse!!! What gives? Can't you use the same algorithms? Or is Revel an "outsourced" application?

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40K Points

Patricia,

Because a decision was made to discontinue Photoshop.com and focus more on archiving, organization, and sharing across devices, users were given the option to have their jpg files in Photoshop.com copied to Revel. This was offered as a convenience so that users did not have to go to the effort of downloading from the one site and uploading to another, since that can be very time consuming.

Revel was not designed as a replacement for Photoshop.com (it has more of a focus on sharing between devices without requiring storage on each), it is an alternative cloud storage and sharing option that existed in parallel with Photoshop.com.

We realize that Revel does not have some things that you are used to seeing on Photoshop.com, and we realize how frustrating that must be, especially since we do not have one option that covers all of the needs of what is being discontinued. Many of the requests we have seen will be implemented in Revel moving forward. In the coming months, we will expand Revel onto new platforms, devices, and file formats. Please be patient and feel free to offer your suggestions. We value our users' input.

Pattie

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220 Points

Let me know when Revel "gets there" and offers the same features as Photoshop.com, especially the sorting options everyone has been asking for. In the meantime, I will not post any new photo projects to Revel.

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2.6K Points

9 years ago

Carousel should have the same sort/browse options as we have in Lightroom. Basically, it should be possible to sort/browse on any metadata. It should be fairly easy to configure the various options and they should of course be synced across the devices! :)

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What pieces of metadata do you typically sort on?

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Typically when I view photos I have them organised by date, but in order to find particular photos, I like to browse/sort by for example keywords, location. Some times even exif-info like camera/lens.

Basically: all the metadata is there (or at least should be. You're Adobe and have been involved in developing the XMP standard), and the users should be able to search/sort/browse by anything

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356 Points

For now if we could at least sort by the starred tag, this would be nice. :)

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262 Points

How obnoxious that Revel sorts only by date. I have numerous folders in my Photoshop Elements 11 and iPad 3, and I should be able to import by folder without Revel's re-sorting the photos by date.
If you decide to implement uploading to Revel by folder, I CERTAINLY hope you will have a way for photos already uploaded to Revel to re-sort themselves into the folders in Elements and iPad.

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62 Points

9 years ago

Carousel:

1) Cast my vote also for Carousel to have the capability to rotate to a landscape view on the iPhone 4.

2) Would like to have the ability to manually arrange my images in Carousel as opposed to having them displayed by capture date only.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Carousel Feature Requests.

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282.6K Points

This forum works best if you do a search and add your vote to existing topics and only put one request per topic. Auto Rotate Landscape feature is here:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

Add your vote there. Thanks.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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Hi Mardis,
What order do you prefer to have your photos sorted in? When you do it manually, how do you end up arranging them -- are there any patterns that emerge?

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68 Points

When I manually ordered my photos in photoshop I did so in such a way that the slideshow told a story. No automatic way of ordering could take the place of such flexibility. If I can't order my photos manually I will definitely use another photo site rather than this one.

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120 Points

I simply organize my photos by Windows Picture Viewer...i.e. alpha-numeric.
I manipulate a picture title to include it where I want it.
Using alpha - numeric sort of pic titles/labels should be straight forward and easy to implement.

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120 Points

When will Revel be changed to add more sort capabilities?
We've been talking about this over 3 months.

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86 Points

9 years ago

My free trial ended and I was ready to signup for an annual subscription. My only issue with it was what this topic discusses. To use this application I need to have photos organized in folders named for my customers. 5 Carousels isn't a solution for me. I need unlimited carousels or the option to make unlimited folders in a carousel. If you add this feature I will be back, Until then, it is useless for me and I will just use the sync option through iTunes with my iPhone. Thanks.

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1.8K Points

What we're working on for organization is events. With events, you can give an event a name, and it can be comprised of a whole day, partial day, or multiple days' worth of photos. (While you mention a professional usage scenario, I should point out that for the foreseeable future, we're focused on evolving the feature set for individuals and families.)

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Interesting idea. Assuming that most photographers already have a photo manager like Aperture or Lightroom, how do you foresee that we should be able to sync metadata, updates (new/deleted/modified photos) between the current organisation in mentioned apps and to/from Carousel?

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Our target customers are looking for just one app (across devices) to manage their photo library, and we're building Carousel to be that one app, rather than to be an add-on to existing apps like iPhoto or Aperture. One area we are looking at to enable interoperability is via the cloud, so that other apps could access your Carousel library via an API.

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Thanks. From that 1.0 version of the program that had no real managing capabilities (not even metadata), it has been hard to understand your targets.

I think that if you do not include a very good link to Lightroom you will loose a lot of potential customers, since Lightroom's customer base is quite large. And as you know, all adjustments done in Lightroom are proprietary and can not be used by other programs, so switching to Carousel is not an option.

I am really looking forward to Carousel 2.0 and Lightroom 4.0 :-)

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1.8K Points

9 years ago

We do read these suggestions and we value them tremendously. Right now we're working on several new features that have been asked for on these forums, and we'll have updates to the app in the coming months that release these new features to customers. We really do appreciate the time you and everyone take to tell us what you think about Carousel today, both its strengths and weaknesses, as well as how you'd like to see it evolve in the future.

Can you tell us more about how Carousel is hand-cuffing you?

-Sumner Paine, product manager

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I can only answer for myself, but the only reason for me to not use Carousel as it is today, is that it lives by itself with no links to other programs and no good use of metadata. Import/Export only and leave all managing of modified photos to the users (i.e. to know what has been modified in Carousel and should be moved back to Lightroom and vice versa) is simply not usable.

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336 Points

I understand why some people may feel "handcuffed" if they were to use Revel as their only photo library, because all of your pictures seem trapped in the service. I know there is an export feature on the Mac, but this seems a lot of hassle to export the photo, edit it, and then import it again into Revel.
What would be good would be the ability to edit a photo in an external application. The editing features are nice, but sometimes you need something more heavy duty. This is a feature that is present in both iPhoto and Picasa. Or possibly a way to open in Finder. Also, It would also be nice if the iOS app supported the "open in" feature, this would save the hassle of having to export to the camera roll before editing in another app. Precautions like these should be taken to make it so the user does not feel that his pictures are "trapped" in the service.

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4.2K Points

9 years ago

What about this feature: ALBUM ?
We need with simplicity and FEW click to create/edit/delete albums and add/remove photos into albums ...

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Revel: Ability to create user defined albums.

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82 Points

9 years ago

Hi,
I need more 5 carousel.
I really need to organize my pictures with differents category.

Professionnal with differents places and events
Personal, my 2 little girls, events, and more
experimental like macro
travels,
friends,
etc.

If i have 5 carousel how can i found my pictures ?

It' a big problem, don't you ?

any workaround ?

Thank's to help me.

Sincerely
Jean-Philippe Plaza
j.plaza@zapps.fr

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Revel: Additional options for organizing photos.

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90 Points

9 years ago

It's slick and pretty, and the syncing of content between iOS and MacOS devices is nice, but otherwise it's too minimal to be of much use. It doesn't even allow pictures to be grouped into events or albums. I can do all this with Flickr for a reasonable price, and the effort involved to upload content from iPhoto or Aperture isn't all that much. A cloud based service with light editing capabilities is very nice, and Revel might be worth subscribing to - if you added at least some minimal editing capabilities. At the least, I want to be able to arrange pictures into folders or albums with meaningful names (for instance, a vacation may span multiple dates) and I want to be able to add titles and short notes to pictures. If I can't do any of these things, then this isn't he product for me. Make these changes, and it might be.

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When you say editing, are you referring to those ways of grouping photos, or are you referring to image processing? We are working on *events* right now, so stay tuned...

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90 Points

I'm talking about adding short text comments and titles to pictures, and to being able to freely group them and give such groupst titles like "New York Vacation May 2011". I suppose those are events. Anyway, that's what I'm talking about.

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354 Points

9 years ago

Organizing only by date is a major problem for me. I am in the process of scanning negatives from 1995. When I upload these to Revel it organizes them by the date they were scanned. Unable to organize by user chosen names or dates makes it impossible to file my images in any way that would allow easy searching.

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1.8K Points

We are working on a feature that will let you set the date/time of photos manually.

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80 Points

9 years ago

I just made the switch from Aperture to Lightroom 4 (love it). I would happily pay $60 for Revel if it had these few features: Lightroom has an export option for Revel, I'd love it if there was a built in option to import from Revel into Lightroom. I'd also love to either have unlimited carousels and hide the dates their imported so they're grouped together, or the ability to export folders from Lightroom to Revel and have them sorted that way. I'd like the manual control. If I could do both of these in Lightroom and bypass the Revel app for Mac, I'd be set. I also believe this is really the complete solution you guys can offer (and need to) to make Revel and Lightroom a complete cross platform service. I'd really use it a lot. Thanks. =)

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100 Points

9 years ago

I'm just making my first steps with my iPad3 and I'm totally disappointed with the photo managing capabilies of the device. I thought that Revel might be a solution to this situation, but it has the same lack of organizing capabilities.

I am currently organizing my ~10,000 pictures using ACDSee on Windows using an extensive folder structure by date and events. Just the thought that I would have to scroll down hundreds of rows to find my pictures is causing physical pain to me.

I am not even a pro. How can you Adobe honestly put something on the market that cannot realistically handle more than a handful of pictures?

Pleeeaaase add something like folders / albums / events so that I can structure my photos. And it will need the capability for sub- and even sub-sub-levels (e.g. sub-folders) to deal with larger amout of data on an 10" screen.

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2.6K Points

I couldn't agree more. Adobe must have forgotten something completely when they designed Revel. What they do have (sync between devices and editing) works fine, but IMO they have started in the wrong end.

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122 Points

8 years ago

+1 for events/folders.

My family has a win7 PC, 2 Macs, 2 iPhones and an iPad. Keeping one single photo library is a major PITA. Adobe seem to have nailed it with Revel but there is no way to organise photos so it is not useful, is it really that hard to add folders given that it already handles some pretty advanced editing across devices.

Please can somebody from Adobe confirm if they are going to add the ability to group by folders and by when we can expect it? I want to use Revel, the price seems reasonable for the service BUT the convenience of syncing across devices is lost without being able to organise photos.

Other features I'd like to see:
Ability to have photos in multiple carousels
Auto sync with iPhoto (including folders of course)

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1.8K Points

8 years ago

Hi Tom,
Yes!! We hear you. We are working on Albums, which are essentially folders. We're working on this right now, but I can't say exactly when they'll arrive. I can tell you that there's another update coming up soon in the meantime, and the version with albums will be after that.
-Sumner Paine, product manager

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122 Points

8 years ago

Thanks for the quick response Sumner, would be good to have an idea if it's a few weeks away, a few months or more.

I can live without additional editing features etc, this is something other apps do. What I want Revel to be (and from this thread others too) is my single, master photo album, and it can't be this until albums/basic batch actions are added.