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Sat, Dec 17, 2011 10:42 AM

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Lightroom/Camera Raw: Support lens profiles for Olympus ZUIKO Digital lenses (E-System)

Will Adobe provide lens profiles for the OLYMPUS DIGITAL ZUIKO four thirds lenses, i.e., the super high grade and high grade lenses of the professional OLYMPUS E-System?

OLYMPUS does not support software of other organizations.

For this reason, E-System photographers urgently need Adobe's support to benefit from lens profiles for the E-System that perfectly match into an ACR based workflow.

Note that OLYMPUS cameras of the E-System are already supported by ACR, whereas we miss the lens profiles of the same system.

Thanks.

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7 years ago

1. Yes.

2. There is preliminary support for the E-M1 in Camera Raw 8.2, which was recently released. It was reported on here:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/rev...

3. Geometric distortion correction is applied automatically by ACR/Lr when processing raw files shot with an Olympus Micro Four-Thirds cameras and Micro Four-Thirds lenses (i.e., lenses designed for the MFT electronic mount, as opposed to manual lenses attached via an adapter).

Adobe Administrator

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9 years ago

Thanks for the request. If you weren't aware already, you can create your own lens profiles with the Adobe Lens Profile Creator or you can download user-contributed profile for that lenses through the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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9 years ago

Hi Jeffrey!

Thank you for your reply. You have a good answer and a good solution, nothing to complain.
Unfortunately for OLYMPUS, the Adobe Lense Profile Downloader has a bug:

If you select "OLYMPUS" from the Camera Make drop down menu, you will not find one profile.
You have to type by hand "OLYMPUS IM" into the Camera Make field and then you will find a small selection of camera profiles.

I think and I hope you agree that this "bug" is little known to the community
that wants to use Adobe Lens Profile Downloader for the OLYMPUS Four Thirds system.
As a consequence, the list cannot be representative for the OLYMPUS needs and interests around the world.
Maybe Adobe needs to additionally support the OLYMPUS four thirds system - just because of that bug.

I will give a list of camera bodies and lenses that represent the part of the OLYMPUS E-System - extra for professional demands.
The consumer level of the E-system might be substituted by newer developments such as the micro four thirds system in the future,
where the OLYMPUS PEN is a good example.
But nevertheless of the latest micro four thirds developments on the market,
please do not forget about the E-System of OLYMPUS for professionals, the OLYMPUS four thirds system.

Four Thirds Porfessional Series:
A.) OLYMPUS Professional Camera Bodies
E-5
E-3
http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/produ...

B.) Super High Grade Lenses
ZUIKO Digital ED 7-14mm F4.0
ZUIKO Digital ED 14-35mm F2.0 SWD
ZUIKO Digital ED 35-100mm F2.0
ZUIKO Digital ED 90-250mm F2.8
ZUIKO Digital ED 150mm F2.0
ZUIKO Digital ED 300mm F2.8

C.) High Grade Lenses
ZUIKO Digital 11-22mm F2.8-3.5
ZUIKO Digital 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 SWD
ZUIKO Digital 14-54mm F2.8-3.5
ZUIKO Digital 14-54mm F2.8-3.5 II
ZUIKO Digital ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 SWD
ZUIKO Digital ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5
ZUIKO Digital ED 8mm F3.5 Fisheye
ZUIKO Digital ED 50mm F2.0 Macro

http://asia.olympus-imaging.com/produ...

PTLens offers camera profiles for theses lenses, but unfortunately - it is a Photoshop plug-in and does not support ACR.
The lens correction should take place at an early stage of the workflow.
A correction with a PS plug-in would be too late for the raw workflow.

If I will find some time, I will make use of the Adobe Lense Profile Creator and publish the results on Adobe's platform.
But still, these lenses from OLYMPUS definitely deserve more attention than is currently evident.

Thank you for your time.
Regards
Gerald

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Gerald, there's a new version of the downloader here:

Win: http://t.co/TkZyVlTY
Mac: http://t.co/AYvjsVph

It should fix this problem.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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9 years ago

Thanks. Let me talk to the people that maintain the downloader about the Olympus pop-up.

Also, thanks for the prioritized list and offering to contribute to the community.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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9 years ago

Hi All,
in my opinion, the E-30 should be added as it is a camera between the two groups, as well the 25mm Pancake f 2.8 as it may be used from the pros as well for special purposes.

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9 years ago

Hi Jeffrey!

Did the people, who maintain the downloader, give you any feedback about the OLYMPUS pop-up? The most practical thing would be just to change the name in the drop-down list to "OLYMPUS IM", as what it is de facto.

I was intensively working through Adobe's "Calibration Chart Shooting Guide". The guide is simple, well understood, but nevertheless very detailed. Really, I have to wow your work, i.e., the lens profile creator itself as a solution, but also the guides.

There is only one question left for myself: For the shootings you promote minimum focus distance, 2xminimum focus distance, and 5xminimum focus distance. You offer charts A0, A1, A2, A3, and A4. In the case of some lenses, for example macro lenses, both recommendations do not match together. Either you need smaller charts A5 to A10 or you have to give up the minimum distance approach.
What do you recommend?
I suggest that you add this recommendation to the chart shooting guide.

Thank you for your time and attention.
Gerald

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9 years ago

Hi Jeffrey,
thank you. That is why I often use DXO.
In my opinion there must be included the lenses of the upcoming m4/3-System also.

regards
Thomas N

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212 Points

8 years ago

Lightroom handles Olympus raw files, no problem, I work in LR 4 and convert the ORF files to DNG during import.
My question is support for Olympus cameras and lenses in the Develop Module, specifically the Lens Corrections Panel and the Camera Calibration Panel. There are no Olympus options in either place. I recognize that Olympus is a smaller portion of the market, but it would be great to at least have the E-30 and E-5 options plus the High Grade and Super High Grade Zuiko lenses options available.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom/Camera Raw: Support Needed for Olympus Cameras and Zuiko Lenses.

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8 years ago

Adobe - Please add camera profiles and lens correction for Olympus E-M5 to Lightroom 4.x.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Please add camera profiles and lens correction for Olympus E-M5 to Lightroom 4.x..

Employee

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8 years ago

We already have.

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8 years ago

Hi Eric,

Thanks a bunch, that would be fantastic! I've just purchased an Olympus OM-D E-M5 with a nice Zuiko 12mm f/2 attached to it and was initially disappointed to find neither lens correction profiles nor camera calibration options for the Olympus (coming from and staying with a Nikon D700 kit).

Can't wait for 4.1 release version to arrive!

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8 years ago

To clarify ...

... what I meant is that lens corrections are automatically applied for all recent Olympus models (e.g., Micro Four-Thirds) and lenses. There are no separate external profiles, nor is any action needed on the part of the user.

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8 years ago

Dear Eric,

Many thanks for replying!

I'd loved to agree wholeheartedly but in my experience (and professionals in the community) the automatic lens correction for Olympus lenses (for instance, the excellent 12mm f/2.0 for MFT cameras) does not fully remove distortion (I have to manually set this to +7 in the lens correction panel). Clearly, the quality of the result I get for my new Olympus lens/camera is substantially inferior to Lightroom's excellent treatment of my Nikon D700 images.

What is also missing (sorry for being pedantic) is the option to apply camera settings. For my Nikon, Lightroom gives me several option, among which I like the neutral setting in the camera calibration panel most. The generic Adobe camera setting is no match to the camera settings - I would for instance never use the generic camera calibration setting for my D700 images, colors and overall impression is almost ugly by comparison to the very smooth neutral setting.

I hope that clarifies some of the issues photographic nerds have with the current Adobe solution.

My best wishes.

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8 years ago

Dear Eric,

If you're interested I could provide example images (with Adobe's automatic setting and after manual control) - the difference in terms of distortion is I wouldn't say dramatic but very visible.

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8 years ago

Dear Steffen, thank you for your comprehensive explanation of this request!

I shoot the Olympus E-30, with the ZUIKO Digital 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 SWD, ZUIKO Digital ED 50-200mm F2.8-3.5 SWD and the ZUIKO Digital ED 50mm F2.0 Macro. I don't have experience with Nikon or Canon, but I do agree that given all of the options available for those two cameras it just makes sense that having the same types of choices for lens corrections and camera settings in Lightroom would provide a similiar improvement during processing.

Again, thank you, I do hope that Adobe will see fit to add these options.