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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 1:48 PM

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Lightroom/Camera Raw: Nikon Z6 RAW processing and Adobe WB

Nikon Z6 bugs only. Interestingly Nikon Z7 raw files don't have these issues. Nikon SDK for both cameras was released and updated on the same date, 18/11/18. Is Adobe Lightroom perhaps using Z7 SDK for Z6?

1) Nikon Z6 raw files are rendered incorrectly. Unlike Z7 the Z6 RAW presets do not carry over.
2) Adobe WB for Z6 is broken. WB Auto has a huge magenta cast, other Adobe WB presets have huge color shifts rendering files useless.
3) None of the Nikon Z-series lens corrections are correct. If lens correction is enabled the lenses are recognized as incorrect lens models.

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2 years ago

Greetings

Updates to Lightroom Classic CC (8.2), Lightroom CC for desktop (2.2), Lightroom CC.Mobile (Android and iOS) were released on Monday, February 11, 2019. Please verify that your issue is fixed by the current update.

Thank you for your patience.

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2 years ago

Thank you for the reports James.  I've forwarded on to the Camera Raw team for review. 

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2 years ago

2) I can confirm that. The WB coeffs seem badly calibrated. The WB is correctly read but the tint is usually between -60 and -30. As a result, the presets and the auto WB are useless.
3) Not sure what is meant by OP. Mine are shown as "Intégré" (French). The corrections are good and cannot be unapplied (OK for me).
4) The camera standard profile do not properly match the camera jpegs (standard mode). It shifts the skin tones towards yellow way too much. Adobe Color is actually closer to the jpegs!
I was considering moving to LR from DXO but I am not sure now. Hope this gets resolved.

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2 years ago

I see similar (but not quite as large) negative tints needed on my Z7

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2 years ago

Thanks, this is much better. Tint is centered around 0.
However it doesn't fix the inaccuracies of camera standard which is slightly too yellow/green compared to the jpegs.

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2 years ago

Dear Rikk,

Thanks for paying close attention, as a user of LR since version 1 (beta), at that time using a Nikon D200, i appreciate the constant improvement of image quality. I have also recently switched to a Nikon Z 6 and happily report that the pink tint is gone since the v2 workaround.
Two questions remain:
1. Are the v2 camera profiles in LR 8.2 the same as those posted for the workaround? Is there any action needed after updating to LR 8.2?
2. I noticed/i think that the built-in lens profiles are not up to the same high standard of quality i came to expect from the LR provided lens profiles for previous Nikon F-mount lenses. Has this been tested?

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Re Item 1 - The V2 Profiles shipping in 8.2 are the same profiles as released in the workaround.
Re Item 2 - The Lens profiles are part of the metadata for this camera and not an external profile we create.  We could review implementation of the embedded information if you have a sample file that demonstrates the deficiency.

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Thanks Rikk, this is most appreciated. Will be back with a sample file. Very kind offer indeed.

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Dear Rikk, sorry for the long silence, I'm forwarding a Dropbox link to a raw image already taken some time ago (last December), which displays a substantial amount of vignetting with the lens profile set to "built-in" and what it looks like after editing in LR:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ds54p11r9weslnu/AABsaEEAVZfoQrLH3-Nneq1ka?dl=0 

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Dear Rikk, did you have a chance to look at my example files (JPG and NEF)? The vignetting issue with the (otherwise fantastic 24-70 f/4 S lens) seems to be mostly confined to the 70 mm zoom end of the range. Would be nice if it can be addressed by an as usual high-quality specific Lightroom lens profile for this new Nikon lens. (I have also observed that Adobe issued lens profiles for the new Canon lenses for the the RF lenses... so there is hope). Best wishes from Corsica, France, Steffen

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I have forwarded to the Camera Raw team for review. 

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a year ago

Using Camera Neutral Profile in Lightroom Classic CC 8.2.1 i still have the Magenta cast with the white balance presets different from "Original" when applied to outdoor landscapes NEF images of my Nikon Z6. I need a flat or neutral profile because i use a lot the highlights and shadows sliders to adjust high contrast scene images.

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a year ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled cyan color cast appears in the sky when raising the whites slider with Nikon raw ....

With Camera Neutral Profile and my Nikon Z6 Nef files when i raise the whites slider (in Develop section) for example from 0 to +30 it happens that a cyan color cast appears in the sky of a landscape with blue sky. I found this problem in Lightroom Classic CC 8.2.1 as well as in older versions and also with older Nikon Cameras. The color of the sky looses its natural look.

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a year ago

I suggest uploading a file that exhibits the issue to Dropbox or other file sharing site and copy the share link in a reply here. The V2 profiles are supposed to have fixed this issue so a file exhibiting the issue will help.

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a year ago

I am using two cameras (Nikon D750 and Z6) and had to delete all profiles from my presets. Otherwise my workflow does not work with Adobe Standard profiles. Isn't it possible to let Adobe Standard proper work with Z6 files?

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This is the cyan cast with camera neutral v2 and whites raised to +70 (i exaggerated to make the issue visible)

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Guido, we really need to see an actual file. Even better Export one of the files with your settings to DNG file format as shown below. It will have your settings embedded so we can see what you see!

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Sorry i don't have dropbox

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You can get a free 2GB Dropbox account that requires no payments and no strings!

https://www.dropbox.com/basic

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1tlfejds4wy97k/GUI_1379.dng?dl=0  I've just uploaded the file to dropbox

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a year ago

Thank you for uploading the file, we will verify this behavior with the attached image.