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Thu, Dec 13, 2018 1:48 PM

Lightroom/Camera Raw: Nikon Z6 RAW processing and Adobe WB

Nikon Z6 bugs only. Interestingly Nikon Z7 raw files don't have these issues. Nikon SDK for both cameras was released and updated on the same date, 18/11/18. Is Adobe Lightroom perhaps using Z7 SDK for Z6?

1) Nikon Z6 raw files are rendered incorrectly. Unlike Z7 the Z6 RAW presets do not carry over.
2) Adobe WB for Z6 is broken. WB Auto has a huge magenta cast, other Adobe WB presets have huge color shifts rendering files useless.
3) None of the Nikon Z-series lens corrections are correct. If lens correction is enabled the lenses are recognized as incorrect lens models.

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Greetings,

This issue should be fixed in the Camera Raw 13.2 update that went live today. This update includes fixes to some of the top customer reported issues among other bug fixes. See: Fixed issues in Camera Raw

 

To update Camera Raw 13.2, click "Update" in the Creative Cloud desktop app next to Camera Raw. See: More detailed instructions for updating

 

Let us know how it goes.

Thanks,

Akash

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Akash, the Nikon Z6 Auto WB and WB Presets issue appears to be fixed in ACR 13.2.

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Thank you for the reports James.  I've forwarded on to the Camera Raw team for review. 
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2) I can confirm that. The WB coeffs seem badly calibrated. The WB is correctly read but the tint is usually between -60 and -30. As a result, the presets and the auto WB are useless.
3) Not sure what is meant by OP. Mine are shown as "Intégré" (French). The corrections are good and cannot be unapplied (OK for me).
4) The camera standard profile do not properly match the camera jpegs (standard mode). It shifts the skin tones towards yellow way too much. Adobe Color is actually closer to the jpegs!
I was considering moving to LR from DXO but I am not sure now. Hope this gets resolved.

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I see similar (but not quite as large) negative tints needed on my Z7

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Thanks, this is much better. Tint is centered around 0.
However it doesn't fix the inaccuracies of camera standard which is slightly too yellow/green compared to the jpegs.

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2 y ago

Greetings

Updates to Lightroom Classic CC (8.2), Lightroom CC for desktop (2.2), Lightroom CC.Mobile (Android and iOS) were released on Monday, February 11, 2019. Please verify that your issue is fixed by the current update.

Thank you for your patience.
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Dear Rikk,

Thanks for paying close attention, as a user of LR since version 1 (beta), at that time using a Nikon D200, i appreciate the constant improvement of image quality. I have also recently switched to a Nikon Z 6 and happily report that the pink tint is gone since the v2 workaround.
Two questions remain:
1. Are the v2 camera profiles in LR 8.2 the same as those posted for the workaround? Is there any action needed after updating to LR 8.2?
2. I noticed/i think that the built-in lens profiles are not up to the same high standard of quality i came to expect from the LR provided lens profiles for previous Nikon F-mount lenses. Has this been tested?

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Re Item 1 - The V2 Profiles shipping in 8.2 are the same profiles as released in the workaround.
Re Item 2 - The Lens profiles are part of the metadata for this camera and not an external profile we create.  We could review implementation of the embedded information if you have a sample file that demonstrates the deficiency.
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Thanks Rikk, this is most appreciated. Will be back with a sample file. Very kind offer indeed.

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Dear Rikk, sorry for the long silence, I'm forwarding a Dropbox link to a raw image already taken some time ago (last December), which displays a substantial amount of vignetting with the lens profile set to "built-in" and what it looks like after editing in LR:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ds54p11r9weslnu/AABsaEEAVZfoQrLH3-Nneq1ka?dl=0 

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Dear Rikk, did you have a chance to look at my example files (JPG and NEF)? The vignetting issue with the (otherwise fantastic 24-70 f/4 S lens) seems to be mostly confined to the 70 mm zoom end of the range. Would be nice if it can be addressed by an as usual high-quality specific Lightroom lens profile for this new Nikon lens. (I have also observed that Adobe issued lens profiles for the new Canon lenses for the the RF lenses... so there is hope). Best wishes from Corsica, France, Steffen

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I have forwarded to the Camera Raw team for review. 
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Thanks a bunch

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Dear Rikk, by way of a small update: the vignetting issue seem to mostly affect only the ~60-70 mm, ie, the long end, of the zoom range. Typically, requires a +25 to +35 vignetting correction in the Lens Corrections panel.

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PS: as far as i know there is no mechanism to apply this automatically to a specific zoom range of a particular lens, eg, during the import of new images. The vignetting correction would affect all Z 6 images, isn't it?

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PS: would be nice to see some action on Adobe's behalf... mind you, i'm paying a monthly subscription fee but i don't see any work being done for this (at least nothing of any utility for me)?

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If you have a sample file which exhibits the issue well and you would be willing to share with us. The team can take a look and see if they can work with Nikon to get this adjusted. 
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Rikk there are Nikon 24-70 f/4 S lens vignetting test raw files at the below link, which may be helpful.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/nikon/z-24-70mm-f2.8-s-nikkor/review/

The 70mm F2.8 test shot exhibits -1.33 EV vignetting in the extreme corner of the image as measured inside LR with the default settings applied.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-z7/Y-JG-Z7-24-70-F2-8-5103-VIGN-70MM-F2-8.NEF.HTM

The 70mm F4 test shot exhibits -1.00 EV vignetting in the extreme corner of the image as measured inside LR with the default settings applied.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-z7/Y-JG-Z7-24-70-F2-8-5104-VIGN-70MM-F4.NEF.HTM

The 70mm F5.6 test shot exhibits -0.33 EV vignetting in the extreme corner of the image as measured inside LR with the default settings applied.
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-z7/Y-JG-Z7-24-70-F2-8-5105-VIGN-70MM-F5-6.NEF.HTM

Exactly why Nikon chose not to better correct the F2.8 and F4 vignetting remains to be determined.

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Thanks Rikk. I've added the most recent 70 mm shot (well, 66 mm to be exact) taken on last Saturday to the Dropbox folder I'd shared previously (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ds54p11r9weslnu/AABsaEEAVZfoQrLH3-Nneq1ka?dl=09

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Dear Rikk, hope all is well. Did you please have a chance to look into this? Many of your loyal Lightroom users (in my case since version 1.0 beta) are waiting for this. We may be spoiled by the past (where Lightroom provided perfect profiles) but i hope this high expectation could be a motivation? Thanks in advance!

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We did. The team is working on new profiles for an upcoming release. I do not have an ETA.
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These are terrific news! Thanks a bunch Rikk also to the team. I can't wait to be able to use the new profiles... ;-)

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Dear Rikk, hope all is well. LrC 9.3 is out (with new a icon, which looks great) but i can't find profiles for Nikon's new Z lenses. Hope that doesn't mean another wait of several months... (i was hoping to be able to save loads of time for this summer holiday's pictures - looks like i have to continue to manually adjust vignetting for many images).

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Or is there a chance to help with beta testing the new profiles...? ;-)

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Lightroom uses the built-in profiles for z-lenses that Nikon z-series cameras embed in the NEF files. You can't turn off the lens correction on the z-series in Lightroom which is a real problem and subject of another thread on this forum. If you set lens correction on a file from a z-camera, you get double correction so you have no control. Adobe does this for most mirrorless cameras for a reason that is not entirely clear.

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Aha, thanks Jao. If this is the case, this is indeed weird. However, i'm still hoping for Rikk's colleagues to deliver a solution that fits (a) their track record of delivering great correction profiles for Nikon and other glasses and (b) the price of our subscriptions. ;-)

(Re double correction: my problem is actually not related to over-compensation - which one would expect with "double correction" - but a substantial and very (!) visible under-compensation (or no compensation at all at least on my Z 24-70 f/4 at both ends of the zoom, ie toward 24mm and 70mm, and with F-stops below 6.3))

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Hi Rikk, i can see that LR 9.4 lays the groundwork for introducing Adobe calibrated lens profiles to replace the built-in profiles (which can be poor as in the case of the new Nikon Z lenses). Maybe in October? This will then be almost 2 years since these new Z cameras hit the market... sigh and hope at the same time.

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Hi Rikk, you can imagine how disappointed i was when i opened version 10 and realised that there is still no support for the now 2 year old Nikon z lenses...

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(apart from a continued absence of support for HEIC export)

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@Steffen

Lens profiles are embedded on the Nikon Z-6 and are enabled by default. There is no need to apply one as it is already applied.

As of the August update you also have the option to disable the Lens profile. 

Given that I can't understand your disappointment because they have been there for some time. 

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Dear Rikk,

Thanks and oops. Our point has always been (since more than a year and backed up by several comments and example files) that the Nikon built-in profiles are low quality and that they need to be replaced by Adobe calibrated lens profiles... and yourself confirmed this (see above): "The team is working on new profiles for an upcoming release. I do not have an ETA." (7 months ago)...

Best wishes, Steffen

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We also still cannot turn off the lens profile for the Z7 even when correction was turned off in camera even in the latest update. For built in profiles such as the ones the mirrorless Nikons embed in the raw files, we really need the capability to use the amount sliders like we can do for Adobe developed profiles. For example, the vignetting correction Lightroom applies using the built-in profiles is not enough. Lightroom also applies less correction than Nikon applies using the same profile when using their own raw converter at default settings.

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@jao: agreed, it's still a significant quality issue for Nikon Z camera images in Lightroom (since late 2018....).

Steffen70

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@Rikk: can you please clarify what is going on (if anything happened since i first labeled this issue almost 2(!!!) years ago? You had requested example images, which i provided (also almost 2 years ago). There was your acknowledgment (finally) early this year that the Lightroom team is working on this. But your most recent reply seems to indicate that you're still not understanding what this issue is (although i wouldn't know any other more basic issue than proper control of vignetting). This is NOW URGENT. Mind you i'm paying € 10 every month but do not see any improvement for now 24 months... is this going to be a test of my patience (or stupidity as a paying customer for nothing)?

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The Camera Raw team is continuing their work on this issue. I have no ETA I can provide at this time. 

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Dear Rikk, thanks for confirming but please relay to your colleagues that two years is a really long time (including in our lives). I have just edited a batch of 2,000 Z6 images and each single one needed readjustments of the vignetting compensation (this includes images taken with the 24-70 mm f/4 S and the 50 mm f/1.8 S). It's cumbersome to do, takes hours and really, was handled wonderfully since 2011 (?) by those great lens profiles for previous Nikon glass in Lightroom. We're spoiled customers!

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Dear Rikk, please is there perhaps a beta profile that i could test? I have again 4000+ images awaiting my edits and to be honest, it's a dreadful job since every single image needs manual adjustments of vignetting...

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Dear Rikk, LR classic 10.1 is out, still without any sign of any progress on this Nikon z lens issue. Sorry, but can you explain this in simple terms why i am paying every month? To be punished by an utterly lazy Adobe team?

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Dear Rikk, just to clarify: i hope it's not too much of an expectation to see some tiny progress on a major image quality issue for Nikon z lenses when i as your customer have been paying € 300 over the last 2 years. This may be nothing for Adobe but it's a lot for a small family budget. We are kicking off the phase 3 trial of a third COVID-19 vaccine - if we were to work at the same speed as Adobe, well we may well be out of the job by next year! It is really FRUSTRATING to see absolutely nothing being done for my hard earned money! Sorry to say this so clearly.

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You know there is a Lens Profile Creator tool so you could make your own lens profile instead of having to wait until it makes its way up Adobe's priority list? 

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

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Thanks Victoria. I know it runs only on old Macs (i kept one just in case) but the thing is that the current implementation in LR Classic would not allow anyone to load another profile. So quite a few users (thousands i would guess who by now own a Nikon Z camera) are stuck with the subpar implementation of the automatically applied lens corrections (contained in the Nikon NEF/RAW file). Any further corrections (available in the Manual Lens Correction panel) are applied ON TOP of the automatically implemented (but largely insufficient) corrections - which results in an optical mess....

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Dear Victoria, earlier today Rikk decided to kid me. TWO YEARS ago he had requested me to produce and share an example of the totally insufficient implementation of the Z lens correction profiles (HEAVY vignetting, which cannot be corrected manually nor by a self-produced lens correction profile - but anyway why should i when i'm paying Adobe € 300 to do this work? - because LR Classic would only allow corrections ON TOP of the optically jarring automatic correction). 8 MONTHS ago he had confirmed (in fact, several times since then!) that the team is working on it. And now he suggests that i should BEG Adobe again? What is going on - is everyone at Adobe on vacation (this is the impression from a customer perspective)?

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@Steffen70 I'm not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of Adobe's prioritisation decisions, but I can't help but wonder why you're not mad at Nikon for producing such a poor built-in profile in the first place. You paid them a lot more money for the camera than you pay Adobe, and it seems like something they should be able to fix with a firmware update.

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Oops. Simply NO. The built-in profile from Nikon is PERFECT (both the JPEGs produced by Nikon as well as its own - but otherwise insufficient - RAW converter does not produce heavy vignetting).

Why should i be interested in Adobe's decision making process. I am paying cold cash and therefore, only my interest can ever count for me. Or do i get paid by Adobe?

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Oh that's interesting to know it works as expected on the JPEGS. It initially sounded like the built-in profile was poor quality, but that makes it sound more like a bug in the way the profile is being read by Lightroom. 

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Just to clarify there is a contract between Adobe and me as customer, which stipulates that Adobe will keep its software up to date (meaning adapt to new cameras and lenses). This part of the contract has been broken (i have produced the proof and shared this with Rikk almost 2 years ago) and customers are being left in the dust (or required to invest hundreds of hours to repair images, which should be the job of Lightroom - well it used to be the job of Lightroom since version 1 when i joined this enterprise for all Nikon cameras and lenses). What is wrong with the z lenses that Adobe decided to (i) produce such an underwhelming implementation of what's essentially a perfect built-in profile and (ii) leave the paying customer with no option to apply other (including own) correction profiles... this is an totally unnecessary source of major frustrations.

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Victoria, i do work professionally with microscopes including ones costing beyond 100,000 €. Please trust me when i report that things are not the way they should be. All of this was reported and files were shared with Rikk since early 2020. I hope you can agree that this is a long time (corresponding to those mentioned hundreds of additional hours needed to deal with those heavy vignetting). Of course, this is a classical first world problem but many of us are committed (professionally) to produce highest quality and useful/meaningful progress and it this commitment and engagement that keeps us going.

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Victoria, and of course, you do have a point: if all images coming out of expensive cameras would be perfect - this would also be my ideal situation. In fact, it's not that i desire sitting down many hours to edit images. However: wouldn't that situation also render Lightroom (partially) irrelevant? ;-)

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Victoria, to add to Steffen's comments, in my experience if you take the exact same file into Nikon's Capture NX software, it fully corrects the vignette. The vignette description in the file is just fine and Nikon did a good job measuring it, Adobe just undercorrects for it. I had a long discussion on the support forums where it became very clear that Adobe just doesn't use the vignette information the same way as Nikon does leading to uncorrected vignette in Lightroom/ACR. Also in Nikon's software, you can easily turn on and off the geometry and vignette corrections, or regulate the amount of correction applied. You can't do that in Lightroom. Also if you turn off the corrections in camera, Lightroom ignores this setting and still applies the corrections but capture NX doesn't. The built-in profiles should simply be treated in the same way as Adobe profiles. You should be able to turn them off and use the sliders to regulate how much correction is applied.

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Thanks Jao. I fully agree.

Steffen70

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Hi Jao, can you please also post your comment here (https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/camera-raw-and-dng/camera-rawlightroom-lens-profile-requests-and-information/5f5f45a84b561a3d4258a112?commentId=5fd128f7b5962575127fc699&replyId=5fd247457288d52d004c2fa6). That thread is active but obviously mostly with clueless people (or Adobe fanboys)...

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When you guys click on the info I in the lens correction panel, what does it say the profile is applying? Just CA and distortion or vignetting too?

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It always says vignetting too for the lenses I use and you can clearly see it corrects about 75% of the vignette present which you can check by turning off the correction in Capture NX-D. It corrects most but not all of the present vignette.

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Dear Victoria, i can confirm Jao's description. I don't know whether it's 75% (my guesstimate is more in the 60-70% range) but LR somehow miscalculates the embedded infos in the Nikon files and then applies incomplete correction.

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Dear Victoria, we're still waiting for a solution please. It had been promised since April/May by Rikk. Meanwhile i have been paying € 13 every single month. (well, i have been paying € 312 since Dec 2018 when i bought my first Z lenses from Nikon). It's really not fair to let your longtime loyal customers down like this.

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@Steffen70  while I would love to be able to fix this for you, I don't work for Adobe. Rikk is clearly aware and makes sure important threads get in front of the right engineers, but the product managers make the decisions at the end of the day.

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Hopefully-

Happy new year!

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Using Camera Neutral Profile in Lightroom Classic CC 8.2.1 i still have the Magenta cast with the white balance presets different from "Original" when applied to outdoor landscapes NEF images of my Nikon Z6. I need a flat or neutral profile because i use a lot the highlights and shadows sliders to adjust high contrast scene images.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled cyan color cast appears in the sky when raising the whites slider with Nikon raw ....

With Camera Neutral Profile and my Nikon Z6 Nef files when i raise the whites slider (in Develop section) for example from 0 to +30 it happens that a cyan color cast appears in the sky of a landscape with blue sky. I found this problem in Lightroom Classic CC 8.2.1 as well as in older versions and also with older Nikon Cameras. The color of the sky looses its natural look.

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I suggest uploading a file that exhibits the issue to Dropbox or other file sharing site and copy the share link in a reply here. The V2 profiles are supposed to have fixed this issue so a file exhibiting the issue will help.

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I am using two cameras (Nikon D750 and Z6) and had to delete all profiles from my presets. Otherwise my workflow does not work with Adobe Standard profiles. Isn't it possible to let Adobe Standard proper work with Z6 files?

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This is the cyan cast with camera neutral v2 and whites raised to +70 (i exaggerated to make the issue visible)

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Guido, we really need to see an actual file. Even better Export one of the files with your settings to DNG file format as shown below. It will have your settings embedded so we can see what you see!

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Sorry i don't have dropbox

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You can get a free 2GB Dropbox account that requires no payments and no strings!

https://www.dropbox.com/basic

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1tlfejds4wy97k/GUI_1379.dng?dl=0  I've just uploaded the file to dropbox

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I can confirm what you are seeing. It appears that the original Camera Neutral profile and new Camera Neutral V2 profile are identical and exhibit the same issue, but their 'As Shot' WB Temp and Tint values are different. The intent of the V2 profiles is to better match the LR WB Temp an Tint values so this is expected.

Camera Neutral profile As Shot WB:  4150, -26

Camera Neutral V2 profile As Shot WB:  4450, +18

Adjusting WB to the below values makes the Camera Neutral profile and new Camera Neutral V2 profile renderings appear the same, but with the a slight cyan color shift in the sky. This may be reflecting the actual in-camera matching profile rendering. The WB value differences are probably due to the in-camera 'Auto' WB setting being influenced by the large yellow-green foliage area. You also have the in-camera Active D-Lighting set to Extra High, which LR cannot read and apply. That will change the image appearance when compared to an in-camera JPEG, the raw file's embedded preview, or using Nikon's raw editing software. I suggest leaving the Active D-Lighting in-camera setting OFF.




Camera Neutral profile WB:       5500, -47

Camera Neutral V2 profile WB:  5500, +10

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Just one comment. With the Z6 and Z7, Lightroom actually does understand the active D-lighting settings. They are automatically applied by dialing in exposure compensation and highlights and shadows. This is done by the camera by writing camera raw xmp settings into the NEF files that are read and applied by Lightroom. These are the only current cameras where in-camera settings do transfer into Lightroom so in general you are right but not when it pertains to these two.

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Thank you Todd for the explanation and support

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Thanks for the correction Jao. The Nikon Z6 and Z7 are setting new ground when it comes to in-camera settings!

Guido, try using the Adobe Neutral or Adobe Standard V2 profile instead Camera Neutral V2. It doesn't appear to shift the sky color  toward cyan so may be a better choice for this image. You can also try using the Adjustment Brush to paint in some Dehaze in the distant mountain and sky areas. Use any of the other brush settings as needed to achieve the desired rendering.

This uses Adobe Neutral with an Adjustment Brush of Dehaze 35 in the sky and mountain area and your original settings. You can tweak the Basic panel controls to improve the overall rendering to your taste. The LR Dehaze control works miracles on pulling detail out of the haze!

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Ok i will try thank you Todd

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Thank you for uploading the file, we will verify this behavior with the attached image.