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Lightroom/Camera Raw: Lens Profiles only work on raw/DNG files Distortion Slider functionality limited
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Lens profiles are only available on RAW files. However there is a list of (useless) "default" profiles that is available to any image format. Additionally the distortion slider now has limited functionality.
In the most recent update to version 7.3.1 the limiting of the Lens Distortion tool has made it impossible to correct lens distortion for anyone not using RAW image formats. As an editor this has made it impossible for me to correct image distortion from some of my clients.
Where I used to be able to add a lens profile to an image then make large adjustments with the distortion slider, then I could alley them to multiple images vis the Sync option. I can now only make small adjustments that are not significant enough to make up for the lack of lens profiles in the "default" options available to non-RAW images. To correct these distortions I have to do each individual file in Photoshop. This has INCREASED, not decreased production time dramatically.
Either add ALL profiles to the availability of all image formats or restore the functionality to the distortion slider. In reality both should happen, the profiles should be available across all formats AND the distortion slider should work as it did in previous versions.
Lens profiles are only available on RAW files. However there is a list of (useless) "default" profiles that is available to any image format. Additionally the distortion slider now has limited functionality.
In the most recent update to version 7.3.1 the limiting of the Lens Distortion tool has made it impossible to correct lens distortion for anyone not using RAW image formats. As an editor this has made it impossible for me to correct image distortion from some of my clients.
Where I used to be able to add a lens profile to an image then make large adjustments with the distortion slider, then I could alley them to multiple images vis the Sync option. I can now only make small adjustments that are not significant enough to make up for the lack of lens profiles in the "default" options available to non-RAW images. To correct these distortions I have to do each individual file in Photoshop. This has INCREASED, not decreased production time dramatically.
Either add ALL profiles to the availability of all image formats or restore the functionality to the distortion slider. In reality both should happen, the profiles should be available across all formats AND the distortion slider should work as it did in previous versions.
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todd_shaner_6660895
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Nothing has changed with lens profiles in LR 7.3.1 on my Windows 7 system. In the past lens profiles for non raw image files (JPEG) were only provided for "select" lenses. The vast majority of lenses only have a lens profile that is usable with raw files. I have no idea what you mean by, "there is a list of (useless) "default" profiles that is available to any image format. Where are you seeing these lens profiles?
If you're talking about the 'Distortion' slider in the Lens Corrections> Manual panel it works the same as in the past in LR 7.3.1 on my Windows 7 system.
Something is wrong with your LR 7.3.1 installation. Please try opening the Creative Cloud app, uninstall LR, restart your system, and reinstall LR 7.3.1.
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Rikk
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I just checked the behavior of the Manual Distortion slider in the Lens Correction Panel in Lightroom CC2015.14 and Lightroom Classic CC 7.3.1. On a JPEG file with no lens profile available, I see no difference in the range of the slider.
See attached for examples of 7.3.1 showing the range of the slider.
The above three images are at -100, 0, 100 using Lightroom Classic CC on a JPEG file with Unknown lens using the Lens Correction, Manual tab, Distortion Slider.
The range of distortion looks identical to CC2015.14.
Can you share some example images showing what you are seeing?
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Rikk
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I would be happy to conduct a connect session with you if you would like to demonstrate what you are seeing. If we have an issue - whether system-specific or a bug regarding the distortion slider, I would like to get to the bottom of it. Additionally, I would be happy to review the notes of your support call. Let me know if you would like to proceed.
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michael_albany
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Side note, Adobe needs a feedback portal rather than a community. The "community' is a waste of time 90% of the time. Support at Adobe has been notoriously horrible for years. As a professional photographer and image editor for more than 18 years professionally and 20 years before that as an amateur, I am a bit tired of it. As soon as a viable alternative arises, I will strongly consider it. I am too old for this.
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I've tried reproducing your issue using OSX and the latest LR and ACR and they're both working as expected.
I think the issue you're having is that you're applying a lens profile to your image which has limits to the range of distortion... ie 50mm+. What i don't understand is why you're applying a lens profile at all if you're editing jpg? The proper workflow in your situation is to simply do a manual distortion correction in LR and ignore applying a lens profile.
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With all due respect you're making a lot of extra works for yourself. We can probably resolve the lens profile issue discussed here since it appears to be caused by something on your Mac system. Rikk can't duplicate it on his Mac system and neither can I on my Windows 7 system using LR 7.3.1. A LR uninstall and reinstall is my original recommendation using the Creative Cloud app. You can choose the uninstall option to keep your settings, which will not disturb your current Preferences settings and plugins. It takes but a few minutes!
https://forums.adobe.com/message/10034709#10034709
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Victoria_Bampton_Lightroom_Queen
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Unfortunately phone support has been known to tell porkies when they can't explain a problem, to get people off the phone, so them "verifying" the issue won't help get it fixed. The engineers need to be able to reproduce it to fix it.
I've also tried to reproduce it on my Mac, and I can't find a difference from earlier versions either. If you can provide an image that displays the issues, and exact steps that you're taking, then the engineers can fix it. Or take Rikk up on his offer to screen share with you, so he can see it and work out how the engineers can reproduce it.
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