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7.5K Points

Thu, Mar 31, 2011 8:30 PM

Implemented

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Lightroom/Camera Raw: HSL controls for adjustment brush and gradient tools

The addition of HSL controls for the adjustment brush and the gradient tools would be a wonderful advancement and offer LR another great feature set that I'm sure would come in handy for the vast majority of Lightroom users.

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22 Messages

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494 Points

2 years ago

Tottaly agreem this might be one of the most needed things in Lightroom. Adobe should take a close look at Davinci Resolve and transfer some of those grading things to Lightroom...

4 Messages

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194 Points

2 years ago

Agreed.  My current kludge for correcting colour casts on a portion of an image is to add an adjustment brush, slightly increase the exposure (e.g. 5) and then try to find a light complimentary colour to the unwanted colour cast by selecting a point in the Adjustment brush colour panel.  This is hit-and-miss but eventually works.  It would be so much easier to have a control (even a "slider") to reduce the saturation of the unwanted colour.  

Hmm, in the meantime, maybe just add a toggle to the Adjustment Brush colour picker that would allow the user to add OR SUBTRACT the selected colour.

This thread began 8 years ago.  Adobe, you can do better than this.

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112 Points

2 years ago

They can keep going another 8 years to listen to real customers. They just want to update tool panel cause that was so important.

55 Messages

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916 Points

2 years ago

hello,
if it can help, it seems that a new technique is used now by using agraduated filter and put it outside the image so it applies to the whole image. than you adjust exposure, saturation,... AND you activate color range, luminosity range sliders to make local "hsl" :-)

best regards
marc

55 Messages

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916 Points

2 years ago

i forgot one point : and of course you still have the masking brush to remove the effect from unwanted zones.
Look for instance :
https://www.scottdavenportphoto.com/blog/in-post-dodge-amp-burn-with-luminosity-masks-385

marc

4 Messages

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194 Points

I see this as a viable workaround - but it's still SUCH a kludge.

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142 Points

2 years ago

I believe that Adobe doesn't pay atention to this forum. So many real improvements to do and nothing... Very frustrated!

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394 Points

Let’s make this threat pop. This was way to long adobe was ignoring this thread. This is serious issue. Fook they legalized weed. And we still can’t get Hsl on a freaking camera raw. Let’s keep commenting until this corporate asshole can Implement this most basic feature. Keep on going guys

10 Messages

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394 Points

2 years ago

We need to take this forum to Reddit

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122 Points

2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Add HSL to selective tool !!.

The selection tools is fantastic, however I don't understand why we can't change HSL with it! it would be so great if we could change saturation, hue etc of just one part of the image! I don't want to go on Ps for that!

3 Messages

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158 Points

a year ago

several times i need remove excessive red skin on groom in very white people. Using global HSL also change all reds in the photo, like red dresses. Is very important add HSL in adjustment tool to be more precise

18 Messages

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258 Points

Exactly.

Champion

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3.2K Messages

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56.7K Points

While I agree it would be easier to have HSL sliders, you do have the functionality already. You can select the skin only by using the adjustment brush, if needed combined with a range mask. Then you can adjust the saturation with the saturation slider of the brush, and the hue with the white balance sliders of the brush.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

Champion

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2.2K Messages

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37.4K Points

I agree with Johan Elzengathe new Color Range Mask local controls are much more selective than the HSL panel controls. IMHO they are also much easier to use and provide better results once you understand how they work. See my post below for more details.

https://console.getsatisfaction.com/photoshop_family/conversations/hsl_controls_for_adjustment_brush...

Here's an example using the new Color Range Mask control compared to the current global HSL controls. The objective in this example was to remove the color saturation in the Magenta color block. A Graduated filter was applied to the right chart to allow comparing the results with the left chart. You can apply ANY number of settings and will achieve the same degree of selectivity, which is far superior to the HSL sliders TAT control. You can download and test this image file for yourself: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u2df6jd7ernto41/IMG_1837_Canon%20600D.dng?dl=0

Color Range Mask Controls



HSL Controls

Champion

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2.2K Messages

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37.4K Points

a year ago

You can do this using the Color Range Mask tools available in the Adjustment Brush, Radial Filter, and Graduated filter. The HSL controls are limited to eight colors, which isn't isn't very selective. By comparison the Color Range Mask has virtually unlimited color selectivity using its eyedropper tool. In fact the Color Range tools make addition of the HSL controls almost redundant. It's just a different and less selective way of adjusting color. You can add as many Color Masks as you like to correct different image areas and/or colors.

I suspect most people that reject this as a solution don't understand how to use it. Here's a good tutorial on the topic of skin tone correction in portraits. Jump to 3:55 for the segment on portrait retouching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usD8FIdQtkU

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194 Points

I watched the video and yes it is an effective way of altering colors; however, it is not nearly as straightforward as tweaking sliders which we have understood for, what, a decade?  How do you use this approach to boost (not reduce) colors that are not in the image?  Most people using the HSL sliders tweak more than one slider control, e.g. reduce the green and yellow sliders if grass is too green or boost both if not enough.  So the sliders do give us effective AND SIMPLE control over a range of colors.  Why not give us the set of controls we already understand?  Other products do.

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2.2K Points

I agree!
In Capture One, make layer, paint mask, adjust anything (inside or outside) mask, including HSL
<https://learn.captureone.com/tutorials/color-editor/>
Come on Adobe make it simple  like this

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326 Points

The reason Adobe doesn't do what seems evident to most anyone using Lightroom is probably for reasons other than those we suspect. Usually because Adobe is run by non-users like ... techies, or .... accountants. Logic from a user's point of view has nothing to do with corporate decision making most of the time. Most corporations are run in a similar dis-embodied manner it seems. Go figure.

11 Messages

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366 Points

And this is the reason why a lot of serious photographers turn their nose up at LR. I love LR but I have to defend it amongst my peers. Adobe could take it to the next level and be a real competitor to Capture One but they are stuck in a pro-sumer mentality, adding features that cater to the middle market. 

18 Messages

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326 Points

Thank you Champ and .... while you may or may not be correct - depending on your personal standards on what good color is, telling clients that what they hanker for repeatedly and insistently is available via workarounds and that they should just read up on it is .... a marketing 101 no-no and probably experienced on the receiving end as tantamount to tone deafness (forgive the pun). Is that what Adobe is looking for? The fix can't be that technically challenging for Adobe.

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104 Points

a year ago

2019 and this still isn't a feature, pretty disappointing adobe!!!!

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112 Points

because these damn libraries are sooooooooo useful.... really?

18 Messages

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326 Points

To all who argue on technical ground in this feed: you are missing the point. 

The point is: when clients and long-time users keep asking for a simple fix just provide it - don't lecture; enough lecturing already.

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92 Points

a year ago

This is one of the main reasons I keep looking to other software. Adobe, if you are reading this, you are falling behind. You need to start making improvements or we're just going to find better software to use.

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62 Points

a year ago

This would be awesome. Now currently In real estate photos I desaturate yellow and orange with lightroom, then open the image in photoshop to mask the areas I want. It would be much faster to have the HSL be brushable. 

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12.3K Points

Yeah.  It's only a 9 year old request so keep hoping.  :-)

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92 Points

10 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I'm sure it's a dead horse around here, but please make HSL adjustments available....

For obvious reasons. Please and thank you, all!

55 Messages

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916 Points

10 months ago

hello everybody,
yes, it is strange. i am using luminar or ON1 now for artistic effects. gorgeous.
lightroom gives me a decent image especially with seimeffects, ramelli,... presets and then luminar4 pops all and come back to lightroom for dodge and burn with radial and graduated filters+brush.
this forum seems not the best. i post such request on other ones like julieannekost tweets+blog, lightroomkillertips. feel free to join there too :-)
https://lightroomkillertips.com/february-2020-lightroom-classic-adobe-camera-raw-and-lightroom-cloud...