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Lightroom/Camera Raw: Camera Standard profile for A7R III is terribly off
The Camera Standard profile Adobe has created for the A7R III adds a notable yellow cast to the image (unlike say Neutral or Vivid). Clearly not a match for the in-camera Standard profile when shooting jpg.Dear Adobe, can you please correct this?thanks
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RikkFlohr
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Do the exported versions of your pictures when using this profile still exhibit the yellow cast?
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andrew_rodney
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mario_adario
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@Andrew I know I can still fix it changing the WB but if Adobe got the profile right in first instance I would save time...Canon ones are very good. What is the origin of the yellow cast, is it color rendition or the profile is also applying it's own white balance on top of color rendition and tone? With the Canon profiles I never experiences any color cast/WB shift.
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andrew_rodney
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Everything you thought you wanted to know about DNG camera profiles:
All about In this 30 minute video, we’ll look into the creation and use of DNG camera profiles in three raw converters. The video covers:
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How to build custom DNG camera profiles using the X-rite Passport software.
The role of various illuminants on camera sensors and DNG camera profiles.
Dual Illuminant DNG camera profiles.
Examples of usage of DNG camera profiles in Lightroom, ACR, and Iridient Developer.
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http://www.digitaldog.net/files/DNG%20Camera%20profile%20video.mov
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mario_adario
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mario_adario
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While you are here, can you take a look here? https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60635548
Thanks Andrew!
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andrew_rodney
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http://digitaldog.net/files/22Thecolorofwhite.pdf
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mario_adario
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Thanks
PS probably worth contuining the whitepoint discussion on dpr and leave this thread to the profile discussion
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Why are my prints too dark?
A video update to a written piece on subject from 2013
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mario_adario
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Going back to the main topic. Here is an example.
Left is camera Standard, right is camera Neutral (also Adobe Standard looks similar)
You can see there is a yellow cast in camera Standard (eg color of the wall). Also, I was shooting in RAW + Jpg with Standard profile and in the jpg file there is no yellow cast.
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steve_sprengel
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Here are some comparisons the camera JPG and camera DNG with no corrections in LR, using side-by-side Reference View (Shift-R) mode:
First, here is using the Adobe Standard profile, which has slightly muted colors and in my opinion even weaker yellows than the camera JPG:
Here is the Camera Standard comparison where the yellow on the wall at the top right is more intense:
Here is the somewhat closer result after messing with the Camera Calibration Hue sliders for a bit to make the Camera Standard DNG closer to the JPG, though it's difficult to say how well these adjustments would work with other images with more colors:
One final comment is that checking the JPG metadata in EXIF Tool, while most settings are Standard, it appears that Dynamic Range Optimizer was set to Auto and if the camera actually did some auto-fixing before creating the JPG this could make things slightly different than whatever Adobe used when they did their calibrations and can make matching a RAW to a JPG a moving target from one photo to the next:
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