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6.2K Points

Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:54 PM

Under consideration

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Lightroom and Camera Raw: More Photoshop like clone/healing/content aware brushes

More Photoshop like clone/healing brushes in Lightroom!
I love retouching in Photoshop, especially with the content aware fill with the healing tool, but Lightrooms tools are clunky. I don't know if there are technical limitations to implementing tools like Photoshop's in Lightroom but it would be GREAT!
I would rather be able to get a baseline retouched image in Lightroom than having to edit in Photoshop and then come back to Lightroom. I would rather just use Photoshop for image alterations.

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9 Messages

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248 Points

3 years ago

I support this request. The current clone/heal tool in LR does not work well, especially at the edges of images, it always leaves a dark or light shade. The current tool also does not pick a good source in about 40% of all cases and often picks a spot that is outside the cropped area, making it impossible to move. 
The simple spot healing brush tool in PS would be an ideal first step, as it simply interpolates nearby pixels to clone out a feature and only requires a brush stroke. A more advanced implementation would also include the regular healing brush (which requires to select a source). Thanks for considering this. 

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142 Points

3 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Its been requested for 8 years on this website. - A simple Content Aware.

Hey Adobe, you have Content Aware in photoshop. It works great. Its the only tool batch editors like my self who use Lightroom use in Photoshop. I understand the option to take photos from LR into PS with a simple key stroke but it still saves the file as a JPEG back in LR.
PLEASE INCORPORATE CONTENT AWARE BRUSH IN LR. 

10 Messages

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366 Points

3 years ago

Has anyone seen an actual reply from anyone at Adobe on this?  If it ever happens, I bet it will be in the new CC and not Classic CC (where I want it).  

9 Messages

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248 Points

Not yet. However, so far both LR versions get the same new features. The cloud version appears to get more because it is missing a lot of Classic features, but I haven't seen it get a new feature that Classic doesn't have or gets. I, too, want this in the Classic version.

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262 Points

3 years ago

Content Aware works well when it works well. It often requires additional work to be done to finish the job. Work that involves layers. Layers that don't exist in LR.
Also, CA  modifies the image while LR never changes the original image, so I'd have thought that could make doing what you ask a wee bit iffy. It would also reduce the need to pay for PS which Adobe might consider not in its interest. 
Also (bis), PS saves back into LR as a PSD or TIFF - no layers with JPG. 
Good luck with your request !

9 Messages

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248 Points

You don't need layers to make CA work. Right now, when you use the clone function in LR, it says "take content from spot Y and put it on the spot X that you chose. You can select between clone and heal. What we want is the spot healing brush functionality that says "average the existing information around spot X and outside the selection, and put it on spot X". It would work exactly as it does, except better. The current functionality is broken, especially if your application it at the edge of the image, where the average only comes from two directions, not four.

55 Messages

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916 Points

3 years ago

yes, we need a content aware retouch brush. i become crazy with the lightroom clone tool which doesn't allow to paint or doesn't manage overlap of strokes,...
i have switched to on1 photoraw to have this tool, several color enhancer/hsl layers, blend modes

marc

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174 Messages

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3.9K Points

Lightroom 5, 6 and Classic do allow you to click and drag to paint, Marc. I always paint with feather at 0 so that there are no issues with overlapping paint strokes, then I adjust feathering afterwards.

55 Messages

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916 Points

hallo Laura,
i was speaking about removing a distracting element where it clones a stupid zone you must move because not content aware. then, because you didn't remove the whole object, you want to "brush" the remaining part which operlaps (pin area !) and it doesn't want so you need to put cursor far awy from previous zone and you can now overlap... prehistory compared to on1, photoshop, luminar and topazlabs. in itself ACR/LR are prehistoric. i agree new profiles,... make it more nice but it takes years to make what other softwares made already 5 yeras ago with other tools.
even capture nx2 ten years ago has a super erasing tool and color efex pro 3 with blend modes,...

marc

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174 Messages

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3.9K Points

Hi Marc,

Type H to temporarily hide pin - then you can put another fix on top of the area. Then H again to reveal.  That said, I know that the tool is limited.

22 Messages

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1.2K Points

2 years ago

This is my most desired feature for Lightroom, ahead of focus stacking.

The ability to select a source point as with the clone stamp tool is sorely lacking from the spot removal tool. I have to keep creating new areas and run into problems with overlapping. The spot removal tool also produces very undesirable results when used at the edge of the image.

With this introduction, I'd be able to move my workflow to Lightroom for all but the most advanced edits. Cloning is far too commonly used to not have in my primary editing tool - Lightroom.

4 Messages

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90 Points

a month ago

Basically, add the capabilities that already exist in Ps’ Content-aware fill. This is a non-destructive edit, correct, so should be doable?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Enhanced spot removal tool

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310 Points

This is pretty much the only thing I take photos to photoshop for. It would be lovely to be able to do it right within Lightroom.

22 Messages

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414 Points

Me too!  For my needs, this is the only thing that lets Lightroom down. Whenever the survey pops up in Lightroom asking me if I would recommend Lightroom to friends, I always give it a '9' with the comment that I would give it '10' if the spot removal tool were better!

22 Messages

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444 Points

a month ago

I have seen many enhancements to Lightroom yet we are still using a old Heal and Clone Tool.

I take bird and wildlife photos and often there is a stick or object in the way.

I regularly use the Heal/Clone Tool yet find the end performance is not great and leaves a smudgy effect. I often end up leaving the object in as it is better than using the HealClone tool.

I ask that Adobe concentrate on improving the performance of this tool.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: Heal and Clone Tool

226 Messages

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3.9K Points

Have you tried selecting the stick etc and use the Content Aware Fill?

That is my "go to" now

623 Messages

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7.8K Points

a month ago

Tip: heal and clone at 200%. 

 

BTW, I tried the latest tool in PS and it left an outline in the location of the deleted object. Sort of OK because after returning to Lightroom, it was easy to use heal or clone to clean it up. 

 

Recommendation: ignore that strong statements in this forum about always using heal or clone. In any situation, one will always work better than the other. For my shooting, clone works best about 80-90% of the time while for you, the reverse might be true. 

  

4 Messages

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90 Points

12 days ago

As many photographers, my workflow involves both lightroom and photoshop. For many images the only reason of going from ligtroom to photoshop has to do with the very limited performance of spot removal on lightroom. I was wandering if you are planning on the future to enhance its functionality in order to speed up photographers' workflow.

Thank you for your reply

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom spot removal
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962 Points

Just for me to understand. What is for you "limited performance" ? The speed to find a source area ? The quality of the area found ? The performance solwdown when you have 50 of them ? 

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12.1K Points

There's an idea here for you to upvote. I believe it's a similar request Lightroom and Camera Raw: More Photoshop like clone/healing/content aware brushes | Adobe Photoshop Family. It has 355 votes but it's almost 10yrs old. It's also "under consideration".

4 Messages

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90 Points

the spot removal on Lightroom works only on very special cases and has nothing to do with the functionality of the clone tool in photoshop

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Stavros Habakis 
visual storyteller



36 Vouliagmenis St, Hellinikon
16777, Greece
t: +30 210 9600988
m: +30 694 5551000
e: info@stavroshabakis.com
 
stavroshabakis.com

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414 Points

Under consideration for 10 years!!?  Surely this needs to be 'addressed'!  I have added my 'Upvote'.