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6.2K Points

Fri, Apr 1, 2011 7:54 PM

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Lightroom and Camera Raw: More Photoshop like clone/healing/content aware brushes

More Photoshop like clone/healing brushes in Lightroom!
I love retouching in Photoshop, especially with the content aware fill with the healing tool, but Lightrooms tools are clunky. I don't know if there are technical limitations to implementing tools like Photoshop's in Lightroom but it would be GREAT!
I would rather be able to get a baseline retouched image in Lightroom than having to edit in Photoshop and then come back to Lightroom. I would rather just use Photoshop for image alterations.

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68 Points

9 years ago

+1, this would be awesome

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172 Points

9 years ago

at least add using areas instead of circles

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780 Points

9 years ago

Yes this is absolutely necessary in LR and NO it wouldn't stop me from buying and using Photoshop.

Adobe you can't really say you listen to feedback and then ignore the #1 requested item. I want the feature so badly I wouldn't even mind if it only worked in LR if Photoshop was installed on my system.

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190 Points

9 years ago

I really can't imagine content aware healing is going to happen, even in LR5, but PLEASE lets have at least PS CS1 cloning level of functionality in LR4 final!

* Different shaped brushes
* Ability to change aspect ratios of brushes
* Ability to rotate brushes/source
* Ability to stack/layer multiple clones/healing spots
* Better control over edge softness/dither

This is by FAR the most important thing to add to LR4 - Not just in my opinion, but in the fact that this is easily the most requested feature here.

Come on Adobe - Make LR4 great!

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64 Points

Of all of the comments and requests I've seen on this thread, this is the best suggestion for LR4. Adobe developers, please listen.

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128 Points

"Ability to stack/layer multiple clones/healing spots".....EXCELLENT idea and from a programming standpoint, that shouldn't be that hard to do. That would alleviate much time and frustration with the photography that I do.

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76.3K Points

A trick for stacking: create apart then move closer together (as opposed to trying to create in close). Not a substitute for a better distraction removal tool but may help get you by in the mean time...

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780 Points

9 years ago

Agree M Thicke,

I personally don't use and don't need content-aware fill, so I'd be satisfied with the conventional cloning brush.

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114 Points

9 years ago

If the only change they made to Lightroom 4 was to add a decent clone tool then I would pay for the upgrade. As it is if they don't include a clone tool I think I will stick with Lightroom 3.

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456 Points

9 years ago

I wish lightroom requests weren't lumped in with photoshop ones as the forums flooded with lightroom stuff, making the photoshop issues get sent to page 2. such as the much needed tiling / edgeless canvas request!!! >:(

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456 Points

9 years ago

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358 Points

9 years ago

+ 1 count me in for content aware brushes/healing in Lightroom

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110 Points

9 years ago

Everybody is talking about Lightroom but I (and I am sure others) live in Camera Raw and would just like a better selection tool for that program.

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1.9K Points

As this is a lightroom forum section, I'm guessing that is why people are talking about cloning/healing/content aware... for lightroom

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110 Points

This topic title says "Lightroom and Camera Raw". There should be a separate topic for "Camera Raw" because users of "Camera Raw" have different needs that Lightroom users (although some needs are the same).

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286 Points

9 years ago

Hi everyone...

Has Adobe actually officially commented on this subject?

Question : Dear Adobe... are you going to inprove / add this feature yes or NO.

If yes then when.

Quite a simple question but one that leaves me thinking that the only strategy that adobe have here (As with other manufacturers naming no names apple) just drip feed enough features in order to drag out revenue lines over many years....

I am new to LR and find the endless requests for this feature quite frustrating as the demand surely demonstrates the need for this apparantly (depending on which comments you read) easy /difficult - absoloutely desperate to have/ not that bothered about it debate.

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642 Points

9 years ago

> Question : Dear Adobe... are you going to inprove / add this feature yes or NO.

Question: Dear commenters... are you going to stop being overly dramatic or passive aggressive with respect to a feature request that has ballooned to epic proportions, yes or NO?

A follow up: Dear "software programmers by day", are you going to keep telling Adobe what is easy and not easy to implement, without any knowledge of the actual source code?

A good reason (in my book) why this feature hasn't received "acknowledgement" is how absurdly broad it has become (no thanks to some merging with other topics, what's up with that?). Some want content aware cloning, some want layers and stacking, some want different brush shapes, others want healing mask rotation and mirroring, others free-hand selection, or even healing history. A new sub-request pops up every week, flagged as "the most important thing to add to LR since sliced bread", one that certainly would require "very little development resource".

Just re-split the topic already! At least with soft-proofing or geotagging it's not unreasonable (though not guaranteed) to expect "yes/no/here is our plan" from the developers, but why are you guys expecting an acknowledgement on something that *large*? Maybe (I say maybe) if we had different topics, all with the same "healing brush" *tag* and prefix (say Lightroom: Healing Brush: Rotation and Mirroring") to keep it tidy, Adobe could get a chance to chime-in on what is specific enough. In the "Lightroom: Healing Brush: Content Aware" topic we could eventually see something more official like "huhhh, did you notice how CPU intensive content-aware fill is in PS? how do you expect that to work in a non-destructive, real-time app like LR, especially with lens correction on?!" (not what you would want to hear but helpful nonetheless).

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Amen

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286 Points

Amen to your Amen... Sebastien has put my frustration much more elequently than I . my main point being is there a need for it ,, if yes add it to the development /roadmap and publicise it or dont ... Adobe has a very dedicated and loyal user base (I am becoming one myself)....

As this whole discussion thread demonstrates there is demand for certain features.. I cannot imagine complete feature convergence between all products that would be absurd right?... people have spent money on LR or PS or elements for that matter or all and somehow want more features in their chosen purchase. likewise Adobe have differenct products with different feature sets to meet market demands,... you pays your money and makes your choices....

The point of my yes/no question was aimed at putting an end to endless discussions about the same point that appear to go unanswered or to that matter diverging points as in the beast that this thread has become...

perhaps the moderators of this should end this dicsussion thread in favour of separating the numerous and varied (some valid) ideas that have been pushed forward...

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448 Points

Keep in mind that the moderators are the ones who merged the topic repeatedly. That's how we see this feature bloat in the request. Like most projects, it's the policies that are getting in the way here. Like the policy of merging any topics that seem even vaguely related.

It would be rather ironic if, as has been postulated, the sheer scope and no-longer-clear-goal of the feature request is what is keeping it from being "formally" acknowledged by Adobe.

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642 Points

Yup, that's what I was implying. I'm not familiar with this community platform, I'm not sure how to identify the moderators, are they members of the community, or appointed by Adobe?

Anyway, this feature request is a train wreck. Nobody bothers looking at the comments anymore. Actually somebody just added yet another comment... that mentions facial recognition. sigh.

What I suggest (it's just a suggestion):
- Let's recreate new topics for sub-requests related to healing/cloning brush,
- Each sub-topic would be tagged "clone" and/or "healing", and the topic title prefixed accordingly (say "Lightroom: Clone Tool: blah blah",
- Each sub-topic could start with one line like this: "PLEASE DO NOT MERGE THIS TOPIC", followed by a paragraph explaining the request itself, followed by a paragraph explaining why this topic should not be merged, pointing to this current mess of a thread. Somebody with a grasp of the English language could come up with that disclaimer :) (i.e., not me),
- If a moderator tries to merge the topic again, the topic owner should try to talk him/her out of it,
- If a commenter tries to pile on that sub-topic, in a way that would lead to a bloated request again, politely re-orient him/her to another topic or suggest he/she creates his/her own topic following the same template.
- Then let's ask a moderator to close this thread.

I do not have a vested interest in the sub-features mentioned so far (my own clone brush request is so minor I didn't bother piling it here), so I would recommend a few people in this thread pick the sub-requests they have at heart, take ownership of the corresponding new topics and keep them un-merged. Maybe in the interest of a consensus we could all work on the list of new topics to create. I'm going to shamelessly steal from M Thicke's bullet points above, a first round of topics could be something like:

* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Content Aware Fill
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Different shaped brushes and Aspect Ratio
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Ability to rotate/mirror brushes
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Ability to stack/layer multiple clones/healing spots
* Lightroom: Clone/Healing Tool: Better control over edge softness/dither

If you like this idea, mod it up.
Just my 2 cents

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72 Points

9 years ago

Please adobe, Please. Change the cloning/healing spot to a brush. This is my only request of you. I beg of you.

If you were also to add facial recognition too i'd be able to move my personal photo's from apple software to adobe, Which i'd love.

These 2 updates would reduce my photo editing software requirements from 4 programs (LR, PS, Aperture & iPhoto) to just LR and that would be a god send.

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642 Points

9 years ago

God Luke, did you just add facial recognition to this feature request?! Did you look one comment above? I beg of you (too)!

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72 Points

9 years ago

Hi Sebastien,

I found your response to be a bit over the top to be honest mate. Just wanted to have my 2c. I really have no interest in reading the entire thread. It's super long and I have a business to run. Hope you can understand.