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5.1K Points

Mon, Dec 22, 2014 4:54 PM

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DNG Converter: Enable JPG conversion

Lightroom is capable to convert JPGs into DNG. The DNG Converter unfortunately currently is not. Please add JPG support to the Adobe DNG Converter. Thank you very much for considering!

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17K Points

3 years ago

DNG is an open format. Why not pay a developer or start an Open Source project to create this tool?

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190 Points

3 years ago

Here we go again. The person requesting this for a large group of photographers is a developer who has created the gold standard software for timelapse production. Where is Adobe?

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35K Points

> Where is Adobe?>

On vacation.

 And I understand you wanting Adobe to undertake the development of this, but we've all wanted Adobe to develop this or that for us, and if we really want it in a timely fashion, with the features we want, we often need to find a 3rd party developer willing to do it for a very reasonable price. Why? Well, because they specialize in that. They're not busy trying to keep several hundred (and more) features working and squashing the inevitable bugs that arise when they add or alter just about anything to an enormous app.

One of the things you pay Adobe to be is an app that plays well with other apps—Adobe's  apps provide a way for lots of different 3rd party developers to make a living providing specialized features for those who need those features. Believe it or not, there are several image editing apps out there who either don't support 3rd party extensions, scripts, and plug-ins, or who do a particularly bad job of it.

Further, the relationship between Adobe and 3rd party developers has to be at least a bit mutual—Adobe doesn't have to provide absolutely every feature known to man at a highly professional level even if 70% of the features are never used by most of the customers, and 3rd party developers don't get their lunch stolen by Adobe the minute someone here says "I want this, and I want Adobe to be the provider."

It's not that  a lot of people here don't understand your asking , and many are even voting for it. We all do some asking and some voting. But you seem very unwilling to look into other sources for something you seem to think is vital enough, Adobe should have done it already. Ask away, but if this is for a large group of photographers from a developer who has created the gold stand for any type of software, perhaps a proper and official proposal to Adobe management ought to be considered. That might speed things up.

Here it's just part of a wish list a mile long from every type of customer. Enough votes, it might make it to the top of the list, but patience is usually required to wait for features that don't broadly apply to most users.

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74 Points

Sorry to be the Devil's advocate here, but remember the premises: "Lightroom is capable to convert JPGs into DNG. The DNG Converter unfortunately currently is not.". Seemingly, it is not about some new space travel or new brain surgery technique, it's just about adding some existing feature (e.g. already implemented) to an existing tool. A tool that had it and is more than related to DNG itself! A tool that has a more than 300MB installer for one format!

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35K Points

Well, you never know. If it's quick and easy enough, they might surprise us. If it's really critical to your workflow, though, it might be easier on you to get someone to write a script or an extension, or add on to the open source DNG converter itself, than get angry and frustrated because Adobe takes so long to get around to some of these things. There are a lot of "these things" for Adobe to get around to.

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62 Points

3 years ago

Got my vote!

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62 Points

3 years ago

please add TIFF to DNG too. Lightroom can do it, but not DNG Converter.

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60 Points

3 years ago

I would add that it would be even cooler if DNG Converter could convert Tiff files into DNG.

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21.9K Points

There is NO reason anyone needs to convert a TIFF to DND which itself IS a variant of TIFF! None.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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90 Points

What is DND?

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DNG, typo from my iPhone. Sorry.
Again, DNG and TIFF are incredibly similar;  DNG is based on TIFF, both of which Adobe owns and controls. There isn't anything a DNG offers a TIFF doesn't in terms of rendered image data. It's like opening up a TIFF and then using the  Save As command and saving it as a TIFF again! When DNG first appeared, it could only store raw data hence it's name. Then Adobe allowed JPEG and other rendered data to be placed into this container which only served to confuse a lot of people about the format as we've seen here. And that's why, after the request was made THREE years ago, nothing has happened. Nor will it. 
So yeah, be useful if this entire post disappeared. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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190 Points

3 years ago

Anyone have any idea how to unsubscribe from this thread? The stupidity is killing me and its obvious that adobe is not listening.

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Up in the top right corner is an unfollow button Chris.

Victoria Bampton a.k.a. The Lightroom Queen

www.lightroomqueen.com

Author of Adobe Lightroom Classic - The Missing FAQ and Adobe Lightroom - Edit Like a Pro books.

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60 Points

2 years ago

amazing!

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60 Points

2 years ago

yes needs to be done

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60 Points

2 years ago

Needs to be done! Support Gunther's amazing software! he's took days off our work loads!

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100 Points

a year ago

Get'r done please!

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21.9K Points

Not going to happen, move on. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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100 Points

Out of curiosity, do you know why not or have an idea?

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Both. 

1. The request was made FIVE years ago. Time to move on.... 
2. The DNG converter's role isn't to do as requested. 
3. There's already Adobe software to do as requested. 
4. I am an Adobe Beta (since Photoshop 2.5). 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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100 Points

1Things and needs change over time and there is a valid need for the DNG Converter to convert jpg's and tiffs.

2 Again, things change over time... The need is huge for this to happen.

3 This is true, however, in the professional world of photography, the software written out there rely's on the dng converter and we pro's rely on it as well. Sure there are other ways around it all, but it is slower, much slower and time is something none of us can buy more of.

4 Thanks for your service. Im sure PS is better because of you. Believe me when I tell you that I'm very grateful for those like you who can help make my world easier. I've been a pro shooter for over 40 years now and have shot for many of the top businesses and magazines, including National Geographic Society, Life Magazine, IBM, etc. Much of what I can do today, I could do in the film days. It's just that in those days what takes me seconds today took me weeks then. Please help us get this done.

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>>1Things and needs change over time and there is a valid need for the DNG Converter to convert jpg's and tiffs.<<

Why? The purpose is to convert proprietary raws to DNG for free, so users can access those DNG's in older versions of Adobe software. 

READ:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html
The Adobe DNG Converter enables you to easily convert camera-specific raw files from supported cameras to a more universal DNG raw file. Another benefit of using the DNG Converter is backward compatibility.

YOU want to convert JPEG's to DNG (and there's hardly any reason to do so), there are two products from Adobe that do that and have for years and years. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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100 Points

Thank you Andrew!

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60 Points

a year ago

Yes please

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17K Points

a year ago

DNG is an open standard, a variant of TIFF which is also open. I don't understand why the people wanting this can't hire a developer or pay someone like the ImageMagik developers to add this capability.

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21.9K Points

I think some people enjoy complaining almost as much as they enjoy doing nothing about it. ;-)

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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100 Points

I don't think myself or others are trying to just complain. I do think David raises a good point. Gunther, what do you think about Davids suggestion?

Thanks guys!

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60 Points

a year ago

+1

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60 Points

3 months ago

Joining the call for this to be implemented. Thanks.

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4.1K Points

3 months ago

You cannot make a "silk purse from a sow's ear" as the saying goes.
TBMK Placing (converting) a JPG file in the DNG 'wrapper' does nothing to make it more accessible or more useful to image editors. It is still a JPG RGB file!
(Except for Lr-Mobile users that can 'extract' develop adjustments and create Dev Presets from a DNG.)

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We are well aware of this. I need it for LRTimelapse because of the way DNG files are designed.
This feature is already implemented in Lightroom itself (you can convert / wrap a JPG sequence to into DNG containers in Lightroom) that's why I'm asking to please allow this in the DNG Converter itself also.
It would tremendously help many timelapse photographers.