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Wed, Jun 1, 2016 6:29 PM

Camera Raw/Lightroom: Lens Profile Requests and Information?

When will my Lens profile be available?

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1.1K Points

8 m ago

Can we please get a lens profile for the Mavic Mini?  With each update to Lightroom I'm surprised that one hasn't already been added, given how popular that drone is.

 

Thank you.

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140 Points

8 m ago

Tamron 70-180 lens profile works with RAW files but is not recognized with JPEG files.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled lightroom classic 9.4 - tamron 70-180 profile

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25.7K Points

Such profiles can only be used on raw data.

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140 Points

Thanks. That's what I assumed but wanted to verify. What I find confusing is why, unlike other lenses where (JPEG) distortion is corrected in-camera, the distortion for this lens isn't corrected (it looks like an uncorrected RAW file). 

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70 Points

8 m ago

Requesting that you include a profile for the Canon RF 24-240 lens. Please! :-)

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Request lens profile support for Canon RF 24-240!

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9.7K Points

Nice Signature!

Lens profiles are Built In for 99% of all Mirrorless cameras.

Steffen70

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916 Points

Everyone knows this. But what matters: most of those profiles are low quality and therefore, Adobe has offered in-house profiles for some but not for instance, Nikon Z lenses (even though the built-in profiles are a disaster)

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The best profiles for both lenses and sensors are arguably those from DxO. Though those I've used from Adobe are now so close that I no longer bother with the plug-in but if they have these for your camera and lens, then consider the plug-in. However, if you are one of these folks buying the very latest body and/or lens, you will have to be patient. They are good, not fast. 

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92 Points

8 m ago

Hello! 

I noticed that there are available lens profiles for Lomography Art Lenses. However, there are a few missing. We were wondering if it's possible to add profiles for the following lenses in the future?

Neptune variable Art Lens System (Canon EF, Nikon F, Pentax K)

- 35mm f/3.5

- 50mm f/2.8

- 80mm f/4

- 15mm f/3.5 (fisheye)

Petzval 55mm Mk II Bokeh Control (for Canon R, Nikon Z, Sony E)

Petzval 80.5mm MkII (for Canon EF, Nikon F)

Lomogon 32mm f/2.5 (for Canon EF, Nikon F)

Sorry for the long list! I'll be happy to help out any way I can. 

Many thanks!
R

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Adding Lens profiles for additional Lomography Art Lenses

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92 Points

8 m ago

Hello! 

Just wanted to ask how could we help add lens profiles to Lightroom/Adobe Camera RAW/ Photoshop lens list?

Many thanks!
R

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled How could we help add lens profiles to the list?

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70 Points

8 m ago

Just wondering if Adobe was going to continue making profiles for Samyang lenses on Sony E-mount, and eventually Canon RF and Nikon Z.  They seemed to have stopped making them around the Samyang/Rokinon 18mm F/2.8 in 2019.  The 75mm F/1.8 launched 6 months ago, and there still isn't a profile available to correct it.  Now they've also launched a 35mm F/1.8, which will also need a profile...

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Samyang/Rokinon 75mm F/1.8 Lens Profile?

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60 Points

7 m ago

I see there still no lens profile correction for the Sigma 85mm dg dn lens for Sony e-mount cameras. I see a profile for 35mm dg dn but not the 85mm. Been waiting some time now for the 85 profile. Really looking forward to getting this. Can someone please put this on the list of lens profiles to create. It is such a great lens - a shame it is getting ignored. Thank you.

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@blillard

I suggest you built your own Lens profile for that lens. 

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60 Points

7 m ago

Is there a possibility that the lens profile for Venus Lens Laowa 9mm f2.8 Zero-D Fuji X/Nikon/Canon will be added to Lightroom?

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70 Points

7 m ago

When will you be updating the lens profiles for Google Pixel to include the Pixel 5. Right now the list stops with the Google Pixel 3. ☹️

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lens profile updates for Google Pixel phones

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70 Points

7 m ago

Laowa just released this lens in K mount, would like to get a lens profile for it.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lens profile Venus Optics Laowa 100mm f2.8 Macro lens in Pentax K mount

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70 Points

7 m ago

I think the Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN lens is currently desperately needed. This is a very popular lens and maybe the currently best 85mm 1.4 for mirrorless cameras, but it suffers from a lot of nasty distortion that definitively requires a lens profile in Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw. Thanks so much! 🙏

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110 Points

7 m ago

There is no available lens profile for said lens in Lightroom Classic (version 10.0, Camera raw 13.0), please provide an appropriate lens profile for this lens, so that I may correct for distortion and vignetting.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lens profile for Samyang AF 35mm F1.8 FE

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12.4K Points

While waiting for Adobe, you can download the Adobe Lens Profile Creation tool. 

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110 Points

Thank you, I'll hit that up!

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112 Points

6 m ago

I have been waiting for over 10 months to see a lens profile for a $9500 Nikon lens. I have seen new lenses added on each update but never the one I need.

Is there a way to get Adobe's attention to this? There used to be a feature request page. Is that gone now?

Do I need to repost as an "idea"?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled When will Nikkor 120-300mm f/2.8 support be added

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12.4K Points

While waiting, you can use Adobe's free lens profile creation tool AND you might prefer your calibrations to the one eventually provided by Adobe. 

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This thread is being merged into an authoritative thread for better tracking and response. 

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The problem is that waiting hasn't helped. It has been almost a year. That indicates it just won't happen unless someone makes some noise about it.

Apparently, the feature request page is gone and all we have now is a bunch of other users who have no power to get anything done?

There has to be a way to contact Adobe. This is nuts.

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  • This is the request page. 
  • Requests for lenses are monitored by the Lens Profile person for Camera Raw via this thread
  • Posting a request for a lens does not guarantee a profile will be made
Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Rikk, sorry surely you're kidding me? TWO YEARS ago you had requested me to produce and share an example of the totally insufficient implementation of the Z lens correction profiles (HEAVY vignetting, which cannot be corrected manually nor by a self-produced lens correction profile - but anyway why should i when i'm paying Adobe € 300 to do this work? - because LR Classic would only allow corrections ON TOP of the optically jarring automatic correction). 8 MONTHS ago you've confirmed that the team is working on it. And i should now BEG Adobe again??? Really, this is a complete DISASTER. What a mess this is!

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Steffen70

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Dear Steven, thanks. The thing we're paying cold cash and we're not getting anything for it. I have not seen any improvement for 24 months. In fact, things have gotten (dramatically) worse with version 10 (and 10.1): performance has always been extremely slow with LR and now scrolling in the Library module feels like a throwback to Windows 95 and before...

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Steffen70.  What the heck are you talking about?  I’ve been using Z6, z7, Z6ii with native Z lenses - 14-30, 24-70 f4, 24-70 f2.8, 20 f1.8, 70-200 f2.8 with only minor and ignorable vignetting on the 14-30 at 14, and the 24-70 f4 at f4. Are you talking about other lenses.  If so, which ones?

Steffen70

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916 Points

Hi Marc, i'm using the 24-70 f4 and the 50 f1.8. Especially at the 70 mm end of the zoom but generally at wide open, there is pronounced vignetting. Once you've seen it it's hard to be overlooked. I'll share an example later today.

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From Thom Hogan’s review of the 24-70 f4: If you turn off the lens corrections you’ll see very significant vignetting (over two stops in the extreme corners wide open at some focal lengths) as well as linear distortion (see next). Indeed, you get an interesting sense of the image circle with the controls turned off, most visible at 70mm, where there's a clear circle edge (e.g. most of the frame is well lit with only a little falloff, but the extreme corners fall off very rapidly, and just in the corner). 

Do you have the built in lens corrections turned off?

Steffen70

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916 Points

Here you go, an example taken end of this November with the 24-70 f4 fully open. To my (i confess professionally trained) eyes, this is not "minor" or "ignorable" but pretty prominent. Wouldn't you agree?

Steffen70

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916 Points

And here comes an example taken at the same time with the 50 f1.8 fully open. Same story i would say.

Steffen70

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916 Points

And just as a reference, here's an image produced with a 24-70 f2.8 wide open at 70 mm on a D750 and which benefited from the usual high-quality Adobe-provided lens correction profile...

Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Marc, thanks.

"Do you have the built in lens corrections turned off?"

As pointed out earlier by me and others, this is not possible (indeed, the fact that one cannot is a major source of frustration linked to this issue)

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The Z lenses have the corrections built in, but they can be overridden (i.e. turned off).  Nikon builds them in; only Adobe reads them.  If you have a complaint, it is with Nikon, not with Adobe.  Have you looked at the same photos using Nikon’s own software?

Steffen70

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916 Points

Oops. Marc, please show me how i can switch them off. Many users here cannot. I'm using LR since version 1 beta but i haven't figured this out. Your move please.

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Oops. Marc, please show me how i can switch them off. Many users here cannot. I'm using LR since version 1 beta but i haven't figured this out. Your move please.

Pretty simple really, and it's been around before beta 1:

Steffen70

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916 Points

Playing with the controls doesn't change anything. Please see the attached screenshots. What are you doing to switch the automatically (but insufficiently) applied built-in corrections off? Or are you just commenting for the sake of it?

 
 
Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Andrew, yes, sure but it doesn't change anything. It has been pointed out repeatedly that LR Classic applies - i should rather say, forces - the built-in corrections on us. There is no way to switch this off. (and thanks for the attempted joke at beta 1)

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Under the shooting menu of the Z bodies, there are things like vignette control which range from high to off.  If you set it to off, you can control the vignette yourself.  Normal is the default.  You can also turn diffraction control on and off.

Keep this in mind.  All of the built-in lens profiles in the Z lenses have been done in consultation with Adobe, but the profiles themselves are embedded in the NEF produced by the camera.  Your complaint is with Nikon, not Adobe.  If Adobe tries to profile the lens, they have to figure out how to neutralize all the shooting menu settings you have dialed in, presumably for a reason.  Unfortunately, it is all or nothing.  The Z lenses receive their overall excellent ratings because the lenses are profiled for all of their optical nuances at the factory, not using RAW demosaicing software.

Again, if you look at the same files using Nikon’s free raw editing software, do they show the same optical issues?  

I don’t know where you live, but in the US Nikon lenses have a 5 year warranty.  If you are concerned, I would send the lens back to Nikon for service and recalibration.  

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Dear Steffen, 

Make a NULL lens profile and apply that. Or better, a custom profile. 

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/lens-profile-support.html

Remove the existing profile from a DNG; use EXIFTOOL.

Steffen70

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916 Points

Hi Marc, thanks for your insights. Yes, Nikon NX corrects fully (and allows subtle additional adjustments) - none of this with LR Classic.  Therefore, my complaint is with Adobe, not with Nikon. How can i complain with Nikon when their software is doing the right thing? As explained above, the whole point of using Lightroom is to edit and correct (logically) imperfect RAW files. This is what LR has been all about since the start but the z lense issue is a major lapse.

Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Andrew, my idea was that i wouldn't pay Adobe € 300 so that i can do additional work... the old Adobe lens profile creator no longer runs on any newer Macs (i think it's a 32-bit app).

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Your idea isn't working. 

Maybe someone nice will make you a null profile since you found it impossible to use the Lens Profile Creator. 

Maybe you'll pick another profile from the list (that IS possible). 

Maybe you'll try the "Manual" option and save a preset to use instead of the result from 'built in'

Maybe you'll just keep complaining. 

I think some people enjoy complaining almost as much as they enjoy doing nothing about it. 

Steffen70

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916 Points

Did i ask you to comment? So please keep your thoughts to your useless self. Thanks!

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Have you looked at the same photo in Adobe Camera Raw?  While Lightroom and ACR are essentially the same, but with more user interface in Lightroom, perhaps you'll find that the two render the same photo slightly differently.  If so, that would be on Adobe.

But, I actually agree with Andrew that if the built in Auto Profile doesn't work, maybe the manual profiling will allow you to do the corrections you want and then you can save that as a new profile.  To be honest, I've never seen vignetting like yours in any of my shots taken with either of those lenses.  But also to be honest, I rarely use either lens (I don't use the 50 at all any more) wide open.  I'd just as soon bump up the ISO and photograph at an aperture that doesn't produce vignetting at all.  If I want it, I'll add it in post.

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The other thing you could do is take a look a DXO Photo Lab 4.  They have done their own profiling of the Nikon Z lenses since Nikon doesn't share the information with them.  Their profiles are slightly different, but maybe you can see where the differences are and apply them to your Manual correction in Lightroom.

Steffen70

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916 Points

hi Marc, I'll try with Photoshop later today. This is a good idea, i haven't thought about this. I do quite a lot of available light imaging and therefore depend on using the lenses wide open. The new z lenses are actually fantastic optically wide open. The new 50 mm f1.8 in particular produces stunningly sharp images with almost zero optical aberrations (minus the vignetting in the edges).

Steffen70

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Hi Marc, yes, i'll look at DXO Photo Lab 4. The reason why I'm "complaining" (according to an earlier comment here) is: i actually like using LR since 2007 (i think) and still do hope that the company takes feedback from their longtime customers seriously or even as an encouragement. As a scientist i cannot image a world without constant (sometimes very critical) feedback! ;-)

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"I had no shoes and complained, until I met a man who had no feet." Indian Proverb 

I had no lens profile and complained until I met a man who had no lens. Adobe user Proverb

i actually like using LR since 2007 (i think) and still do hope that the company takes feedback from their longtime customers seriously


You should go here to address your requests:
https://www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html

Oh, LR public beta was released January 9, 2006.

Some here were using it long before the public beta. 

Steffen70

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:-)

Before LR beta, i've used Aperture but was quickly sold on the superior (sic) profiles (initially, i think it was the colour profiles, the lens profiles came later).

Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Rikk, another update to LR Classic is out but still not sight of improvement to the sad state of affairs re Nikon Z lenses. I may be the only one here but my understanding when signing off to pay monthly subscription was that the software would be regularly updated to accommodate new cameras and lenses. Z lenses are now more than 2 years old and i'm paying monthly rates. Why does this have to be so asynchronous? Why do i have to pay every month with high precision (no delay accepted!) but Adobe now takes more than 2 years to update a standard feature of Lightroom Classic?

Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Rikk, please any news? We're suffering while paying monthly fees (which is unfair).

Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Rikk, the suffering continues. Version 10.2 is out but alas absolutely nothing was done for my monthly payments. (likewise by the way for the underwhelming performance, scrolling in Library module still stutters even though my phone can blast through thousands of thumbnails...)

Steffen70

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916 Points

Dear Rikk, pleeaase when?

Steffen70

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Dear Rikk, i trust that you're personally not interested in seeing customers who send € 17 every month to Adobe to beg for some, really tiny work to keep LR Classic up to date (as part of the end user agreement). It is a very humiliating experience for me - normally i do not beg for a paid service.

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Steffen70

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Dear Rikk, please any news? Meanwhile i've manually edited another batch of >3,000 Z6 raw images. How many more hours Adobe wants me to spend on top of the monthly € 18 fee?

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80 Points

6 m ago

This camera was launched more than a year ago and is currently in version 9. However, adobe parked and only released corrections for up to version 7.

Using version 8 .gpr (raw) files with old profiles produces very poor results. Nor is it also possible to open and upload Raw files to Lightroom Mobile. Only jpg from the Gopro Hero 8 Black camera.

Would anyone have a prediction of when Adobe will make these updates? Thanks

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lens correction profile for Gopro Hero 8 Black

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6 m ago

I wasn't aware of this post before but I'll repeat what I wrote in another thread:

In my experience if you take the exact same file into Nikon's Capture NX software, it fully corrects the vignette. The vignette description in the file is just fine and Nikon did a good job measuring it, Adobe just undercorrects for it. I had a long discussion on the support forums where it became very clear that Adobe just doesn't use the vignette information the same way as Nikon does, leading to uncorrected vignette in Lightroom/ACR. Also in Nikon's software, you can easily turn on and off the geometry and vignette corrections, or regulate the amount of correction applied. You can't do that in Lightroom. You simply cannot turn off the corrections using the built-in profile. It applies it NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO! They don't turn off if you disable the entire lens correction panel and there is no setting to get rid of them. All you can do is to hack the NEF file to delete the profile. Also, if for example, you turn off the corrections in camera, Lightroom ignores this setting and still applies the corrections but capture NX doesn't. The built-in profiles should simply be treated in the same way as Adobe profiles. You should be able to turn them off and on and use the sliders to regulate how much correction is applied. I like them completely turned off as the geometric correction leads to loss of sharpness in my ultra wide angle images in the corners and I like the natural vignette of my lenses. I just don't want any automatic lens corrections applied! Others have noted that the vignette correction in Lightroom is not as good as Nikon's and it is hard to fix with the tools in Lightroom. 

Steffen70

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916 Points

Thanks for clarifying the many misunderstandings surrounding the treatment of z lens images by LR.