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Tue, Mar 13, 2018 10:33 AM

Camera Raw: Slider 'hit' area seems to have changed

Is it just me or has the active area of the slider handles in ACR changed from below to above sometime between way back when and now? I used to grab the one I want consistently every time, now I regularly go for, say, the exposure slder and look at the image to assess the effect of the adjustment only to find I'm dragging the contrast instead.

William.

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3 years ago

It's just you. Contrast is still below Exposure.

Johan W. Elzenga,

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3 years ago

I haven't made myself clear. The clickable area extends slightly beyond the slider handle, it is not necessary to click precisely on it to move it. These days the area seems to extend above the handle rather than below it. I habitually click just below the slider so I am regularly grabbing the control below the one I want.
William.

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3 years ago

Just trying LR for the first time in ages and the handles work as I like them there.
W.

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3 years ago

Going back to Camera Raw 9.1, there is what feels like maybe a pixel less hit area below the the slider in Camera Raw 10.2. However, it's pretty clear from the cursor if you're going to grab the slider (pointer/arrow curser) or go into scrubby slider mode for the layer below (hand cursor with carets on either side). Feels like a case of "Dr, it hurts when I..."

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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3 years ago

Pixel shmixel, the fact is that the hit area used to be below the slider and now it is above it and consequently I now regularly miss the slider I want and that slows me down and that is irritating. It might be clear which handle you are grabbing if you are looking at it but by the time the visual cue has appeared I'm already looking at the image wondering why the adjustment isn't working properly. Software is all about the interface and small changes like this can make a big difference to long time users. After a few years of using software you develop a muscle memory for repetitive tasks and it is hard to unlearn it. If it was changed deliberately then why? Surely it is natural tendency to err on the low side of the target rather than cover it with the cursor. If the change happened by mistake then it is a bug - fix it.

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3 years ago

The fact that a pixel outside of the slider icon was a hit area was more of a bug. The current behavior is more predictable. Sorry, this isn't something our engineers are likely to change.

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3 years ago

Thanks for your feedback Jeffrey but I find your answer hard to accept because:
1. I find it hard to believe it was a bug, I should have thought defining the hit area around cursors would be a very important part of software interface design, it certainly makes a huge difference to the user experience. I'll bet there have been lab studies to investigate the ability of users to accurately postion the cursor on the screen over icons.
2. If it was a bug it was a helpful one.
3. If it is a bug it is one that persists all over Adobe software, eg the slders in LR.
4. If it is a bug it still exists in ACR - the hit area for the cusrors in question extend almost all the way up to the cusor above, see attached image.

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3 years ago

That's not a bug. That's a feature called Scrubby Sliders.

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3 years ago

Hmmm. Now I understand what is going on. I don't like it, can I turn it off?

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OK, I see that the scrubby slider can be useful where there is no conventional slider but where there is it seems redundent and unhelpful to me. Maybe I'll get used to it. Thanks for explanation.

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Unfortunately, there's no way to disable scrubby sliders that I know of.

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