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lorenz_b_uerle

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Wed, Mar 21, 2018 9:36 PM

Camera Raw: Does not apply lens correction profiles when opening Lightroom edited files in Photoshop

If I import a raw file in Lightroom and apply a lens profile and then click on "Edit in Photoshop CC 2018" Photoshop opens the image, but does not apply the lens profile.

This is reproducable with images, I opend in photoshop correctly before.

Rolling back to Adobe Camera Raw 10.2 (from 10.2.1) restored the correct behaviour.

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richard_devitt

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186 Points

2 years ago

This just started happening for me.  I set up a new machine with LR Classic CC 8.2.1, ACR 11.2.1, PS CC 20.0.4.  It imports all develop settings except for lens profile corrections.

My workflow is to do edits in LR and always apply profile corrections.  On the rare occasion that I need PS, I use it after all LR edits.  I've compared some PS-edited images with the LR edited originals.  If these PS edits were done before the machine upgrade, the profile corrections appear in both (i.e., images match, except for the additional PS edits).  Now, though, images edited in PS have the LR edits except for the profile corrections, even if all I do is simply save in PS.

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richard_devitt

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186 Points

a year ago

This just got more weird.  I'm still using the same versions mentioned above.  CC says there are no updates.

Sigma has updated the firmware on some of its lenses (e.g., 150-600C).  In doing so, they've changed the lens code.  This means that LR doesn't recognize the type of lens and applies no profile corrections.  However, you can manually set the profile on the LR profile correction panel and it will apply the corrections.  If you then edit in Photoshop, the lens corrections are passed through.

Similarly, if you apply profile corrections for a "known" lens then manually change to a different lens and change back, the profile corrections will survive an edit in PS.

There is clearly a bug here as the behaviour is so consistent and started happening (again) sometime recently.  I wonder why more people aren't seeing it.  I also wonder why Adobe hasn't acknowledged it here or asked for more info.

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JohanElzenga

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I’m not sure why this would be a bug. Maybe I’m missing something, but what you describe here sounds exactly like it should be.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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richard_devitt

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I think I've figured out what is going on.  There seems to be a disconnect between the the profile information used by LR and ACR.

Trying to open images from the following lenses in ACR result in a message that it couldn't find profile information.  Yet LR does apply profile corrections.
  • Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5−6.3 IS STM
  • Canon EF-M 18-150mm f/3.5–6.3 IS STM
  • Canon EF-M 28mm f/3.5 Macro IS STM
  • Canon RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM
  • Sigma 100-400mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM | C
I've tried images from 8 other lenses and there is no problem.  Opening in ACR can apply profile corrections, and applying them in LR does carry through to PS.

One lens that leaves me confused is the Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM.  Both LR and (opening in) ACR apply profile corrections.  But if I apply profile corrections in LR and then Ctrl+E to edit in PS, the profile corrections are lost.

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JohanElzenga

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For any lens you have a problem with, open a raw image manually in Photoshop so you'll see Camera Raw dialog. Go to the Lens Corrections tab and check that the correct profile is selected. If not, select it and then choose 'Save New Lens Profile Defaults' in the pop-up menu behind 'Setup'. 

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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richard_devitt

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Thanks for your quick reply.  I've tried manually setting the lens profile in the ACR dialog (launched from Bridge CC), but the lenses listed above don't appear in the drop-down.  They do appear in The LR drop-down.

Lightroom Classic 8.2.1
Camera Raw 11.2.1 (according to LR)
Photoshop CC 20.0.4
Bridge CC 9.0.3.279

The Creative Cloud app claims everything is up-to-date.

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JohanElzenga

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Don't check the Camera Raw version from within Lightroom. That says nothing, because that only refers to the built-in routines in Lightroom. If you want to check the version of Camera Raw installed on your computer, do so from Photoshop or Bridge. Because your versions of Photoshop and Bridge are up to date, Camera Raw will probably be too.

Camera Raw and Lightroom use the same lens profiles (meaning the same files on your computer!), so I don't understand how you could see a profile in Lightroom and not in Camera Raw. They do appear in Camera Raw on my computer.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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a year ago

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richard_peters_2748065

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506 Points

Despite LR and ACR accessing the exact same folder of available profiles, and sharing the same profile recognition / defaults: if an individual lens profile is Raw-specific, there will be no ability anyway to select this profile with a TIFF or a PSD image.

The normal route of an image from LR into PS passes silently through ACR. So that's quite hard to trouble-shoot.

To inspect what's going on, editing from LR 'as a Smart Object. may prove more informative though. In that case, ACR is still working off Raw data (assuming the starting image in LR was from a Raw file source), and all the parameters used and the profiles available when generating the appearance of this raw conversion, are still exposed and alterable.

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a year ago

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richard_devitt

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186 Points

a year ago

With the update to LR 8.3 and ACR 11.3 out today, these problems no longer occur.  For me, this issue is closed.

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