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782 Points

Tue, Jun 16, 2020 4:44 PM

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Camera Raw 12.3: How to revert UI to older version, one with vertical filmstrip?

after updating photoshop , when i opened it for the first time there was option to use camera raw as it is (vertical film) or to change it to new UI (with new look and horizontal filmstrip ), i just clicked new UI to see how it looks , i thought if i dont like it i will just go back to using older UI but there is no option to select older UI , i contacted adobe but person who was helping me just suggested that i should install older version of camera raw or ask for help from this forum , i found it bit frustrating that if there was simple option to choose new UI so why not give option to revert back to older UI with newly updated software. maybe its bug or adobe forcing people to use new UI even if they dont like it

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204 Points

4 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Really despise the new ACR. Do not change stuff that is working fine for years Ad....

Really despise the new ACR. Do not change stuff that is working fine for years Adobe !

If any programmer that makes changes to software, making it more of a struggle to work with, with more unnecessary clicks, thinking he/she provides users with an upgrade, please get them back to school!  Adobe, we did not ask for this 'improvement'. Because it is not, it is a setback. This has nothing to do with 'getting used to it'. It is just really crap UI.

Please get the older UI back, so much better as it makes my workflow more efficient. That is all that counts. Listen to your customers and do not come up with changes without -at least- test it with professional customers (!) A dissatified customer.

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9.6K Points

Darwinism will change the audience of users: failure to adapt to changing realities sent many species to extinction.

An observation: some 375 million years ago in the Devonian, there was a critter which is believed to be the first with digits patterned like those of all tetrapods today including us. Elpistostege watsoni who also breathed air through a hole on top of his noggin and could clamber out of the water to forage. That would seem to me to be the originator of a procedure used in traffic in Los Angeles which requires an extended middle finger.

Nothing fishy about that, now is there!

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980 Points

Dave Grainger are you saying that Adobe is giving us the middle finger or you are giving us the middle finger?

Let me put it in basic math terms for you Dave to explain what the software engineers have done to the GUI:

The previous GUI flowed as simple as 1+1=2. The new UX has become 1+3-11+17-8=2

375 million years from now this will be the reason scientist pinpoint when Adobe went extinct.

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Fred: Please  read my comment again. I was telling you that Change WILL happen, and those that learn how to adapt do better, those that just sulk, do not.

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988 Points

Dave Grainger: "those that learn to adapt do better" -- that goes for companies marketing their product to consumers as well... There are plenty of other sources to turn to, many that indeed adapt to the needs of their customers. Those that do not will get that raised finger that you so helpfully injected into this thread.

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Alan: I certainly agree that Adobe must fix this current update mess and I am sure that they are burning the midnight oil to do so. Features changes are a different story...

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152 Points

4 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled select the interface for camera raw.

please give the old camera raw version. 
how I would like LR This would use LR.
make options so that I can choose the old / new interface.
new is a tragedy. why did Adobe ruin it?



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I absolutely agree with this statement from above:
~~~~~~~~ My workflow has adapted over a number of years, and now, it's pretty much as economical as it can be. This change completely undermined that workflow so I have reverted to the original.
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640 Points

3 months ago

Cannot stand the new camera raw layout!  Ugh why must they always change things SO annoying.  Is there a way to revert to the old look without changing the version?  Adobe you suck if you don't give us these options....hope they didn't assume everyone would love their new look because they don't....personally I can't stand it! 

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No, there isn't. Revert to older version or move forward.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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206 Points

3 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled The mess that the new Camera Raw layout is..

Hi, Adobe!
Since you introduced the latest Camera Raw change, I've noticed that I really do anything to avoid using it. Usability is awful, this new layout is absolutely user unfriendly. I've been such a big fan of Camera Raw since day one. But now I hate it 100%.
I just want to say that I wish you could roll back to the older, better layout. It was ultimately perfect. Now it's like "shut me off and never open again". Really unhappy with the mess that you turned it into. Sorry for such a loud opinion. Can you ask around other users? I've got a feeling that I'm not the only one.

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784 Points

Just read the whole thread and you'll see that you are not alone and how to revert back.

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Hi, Branislav - I believe I've now read the entire thread but plan to read it once more just to be sure.  I understand that I have to run the 12.2 installer but what I'm not clear about is if I need or don't need to do anything else - like uninstall Bridge, for instance.  Will the 12.2 installer install over the 12.3 current installation?  
   All I really want is one button to click to make 12.3 disappear forever.  I can't imagine what Adobe was thinking.  

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You should not have to run the uninstaller.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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988 Points

lwdgrfx: I got mine reverted by simply running the 12.2 installer... THEN after a system reboot Bridge failed to display thumbnail images. The latter was fixed by opening the Adobe CC installer, selecting the "3 dots" menu for Adobe Bridge, selecting other versions & reverting to the previous version of Bridge. After that, and a system reboot, all is back to normal. I'll never allow another update of Bridge or Camera RAW without first verifying in this group that the huge mistake of an "upgrade" isn't repeated.

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1.2K Points

3 months ago

... and still, there has been NO MEANINGFUL RESPONSE FROM ADOBE about the kickback on ACR 12.3, here or anywhere else that I can find. Just hired-guns and gurus towing the corporate line with occasional rollback instructions posted by 'official representatives' on forums like this one. 

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Kickback? You wish to roll back to the last version. Doable. 
Adobe telling you what they are going to do before they release? Not going to happen, you're not (like some here) under NDA. 

So what is your question, how to roll back to the last version? 
Installers can be found here:https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-in-installer.html#12_x

Hired guns? No. Some in pre-release NDA testers posting how to make the new version work with the new changes or telling you how to actually go back; yes

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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1.2K Points

Hello Andrew. I'm not your enemy.

I'm a LONG-time user who personally pays for my CC subscription; and like many others, I find the ACR 12.3 seriously inferior to prior releases in terms of workflow and UI/UX.

To your points above...

  • Yes, I mean "kickback" from the market (as in anger, rejection, etc.) about the entire 12.3 release, not "rollback" to a previous version
  • Correct, I'm not under NDA w/ Adobe - and if I were when this release came out, I'd seriously reconsider my position as an honest, objective professional
  • At any rate, the release IS now out, and I still see no objective "professional" feedback (from gurus, bloggers, etc.) about the workflow disaster 12.3 has caused for so many users 
  • Yes, Adobe should perform advance beta testing and live user testing, and provide advance awareness of massive UI switches such as ACR 12.3, and provide opportunity for user / market feedback that they take seriously
  • Yes, Adobe should provide rollback options for massive UI updates for at least 2 subsequent releases to give the market time to adapt and adopt
  • I don't HAVE a question, I'm making a point about the lack of meaningful interaction regarding the market's prevailing opinion of the 12.3 release from official Adobe reps
  • I've successfully rolled back and helped many others do the same
  • I've seen NO objective, helpful information in the form of forum posts, blog articles, etc. from PS/ACR gurus on the web about overcoming / adapting to the ACR 12.3 release in a hi-volume workflow, other than rolling back

If you have information (articles, videos, etc.) from real-world users showing how the ACR 12.3 release is superior to previous releases for hi-volume workflows, or how 12.3 can be adapted to overcome the newly introduced UI/UX deficits in hi-volume workflows, I for one would very much like to review those resources.This is NOT a "challenge" it's a legitimate request.

Like most on the forum, I'm not opposed to progress and willing to learn. (I've used PS since v1 at my first design job in the early 90's, so this isn't my first rodeo with Adobe changes.)

Still, I don't drink the koolaid, and I am frustrated that Adobe...

  1. Pushed out such a massive change to the entire market without any (appreciable) advance awareness, training, etc.
  2. Provided no "legacy UI option" to allow users time to adapt / adopt
  3. Has shown zero empathy to the market's predominantly negative position on the release
I appreciate your challenges to my positions...

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I'm not your enemy either. I've provided simply facts. You can roll back. I've provided how to do so. 
You can learn how to use the new version and move on. 
You can ask Adobe what they will do, don't hold your breath. I've explained factually why

I can easily cherry pick praise for the new GUI. You and others can easily cherry pick the opposite. 

Adobe did get a LOT of feedback long before the product was released, I don't think my NDA limits me telling you this fact. Some were opposed, some were supportive. But Adobe heard and released the version you now have so it wasn't like all this was done in some Adobe vacuum; it absolutely didn't happen that way. 
Don't drink Koolaid; move on. 

They can't provide 'advanced' training before they release a product! And once the product WAS released, they did provide training (URL provided from Adobe here and earlier) as did many others on the day of the release and thereafter. How did those people know what was coming to provide training the day ACR was released? NDAs, pre-release testers etc. 

"I'm not about talking and finger-pointing and complaining. I'm about getting things done". - Christine Quinn

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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784 Points

Who says: “Oh yeah this UI is great, it allows me to click twice more and my mouse travels much more. Also this UI is slower, it's great for my brain, I can think between two clicks.”? Who? Which brain? Which life form?

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9.6K Points

Let's give it a rest and get back to work... Just sayin'

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2.1K Points

3 months ago

Zero respect shown by Adobe to its users. Reap what you sow Adobe....

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206 Points

3 months ago

Does anyone know how to stop recieving notifications every time someone replies here. Where is the button to stop this? Pls?

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11.9K Points

Click on your face(top right of this page) then to the left, you'd see the notification settings.

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222 Points

3 months ago

How do you COLOR LABEL??? I've tried using command, control with a number or just a number by itself. This is how I organized what files to export and what to discard and so I know where I am.. I scroll down to the end of the greens.. and continue working on the unlabelled. 

ALSO- why TF is there no INTENSITY SLIDER for presets?? the "profile" thing doesn't let me use the slider for most of my user-imported presets. 

I dont' use LR because it's bulky and does all kinds of annoying things I don't want. As many others commented, why make ACR into LR? We chose ACR because we don't want LR! I don't want to learn a new software and Adobe is supposedly industry standard. But 12.3 is pushing my patience like never before. I'm a wedding, event and product photographer and I need a tool that can handle thousands of images a week reliably and efficiently. After the thousands of dollars I've paid to Adobe this is what we get..?? PLEASE ADOBE.

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How do you COLOR LABEL??? 
First, go into Adobe Bridge, Preferences> Labels. Uncheck the option named "Require the command key (ctrl-key) to apply labels and ratings. Then you can add ratings and labels with number keys 1–9 in both ACR and Bridge. Click on a thumbnail and you can how assign colors using number keys. 

ALSO- why TF is there no INTENSITY SLIDER for presets?? the "profile" thing doesn't let me use the slider for most of my user-imported presets. 
If the sliders move, it's a preset. If the sliders don't move, it's a profile. And they are separated in the browser, partially for this reason.

There are  two types of profiles now: DCPs and the newer XMP-based ones. In terms of the newer XMP based profiles, they specify a base DCP. For the vast majority of them, including those made by third parties, that base DCP will be Adobe Standard. So the first consideration is that XMP Profiles are built on top of DCPs and extend the DCP profile. On top of the base DCP, there is an optional Look Up Table/LUT. XMP-based profile can also specify many but not all of the options from the GUI we use. There are some reasons why these profiles do not move corresponding sliders. For example, a preset for vignetting adds just a vignette and do nothing else, the other adjustments are not altered. 

 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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222 Points

3 months ago

I will say, reverting to 12.2.1 has given me a new love for ACR after the 12.3 tragedy

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117.4K Points

3 months ago

Please review the official response posted on this thread. 

This thread will be closed now. If you wish to file a bug for a specific issue or if you wish to request a feature (a change in as-designed behavior), please start a distinct new thread for each item. 
 

Adobe Photography Products

Quality Engineering - Customer Advocacy

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182 Points

2 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled camera raw.

In Camera Raw and the latest big upgrade they changed the interface to the worse. That scroll list on the right is only annoying, and it is hard to find the right "arrow". It was better with the old map system. I want to be able to change back to that old style of interface...

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202 Points

2 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled PLEASE PUT ADOBE CAMERA RAW BACK TO HOW IT WAS.

PLEASE PUT ADOBE CAMERA RAW BACK TO HOW IT WAS... the new layout sucks and needs to go back to how it was. Many of us use ACR to avoid lightroom... our workflow is Bridge/ACR/ Photoshop... please 

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192 Points

2 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please provide an option to revert back to the previous ACR interface.

A new ACR level was installed automatically, and it came with a new UI.    I tried like the dickens to get used to the new UI, but gave up after a week of trying.  Put simply : it is more cluttered, and requires significantly more mouse clicks to get things done.  There are many examples, but I'll list two of them : no quick + or - entry for fast (and repeatable) brush settings.   Common adjustments no longer fit on my laptop screen, so I'm constantly scrolling up and down, just to change a setting.   

When you are trying to get 100s/1000s of images processed for a deadline this is significant.    And, adobe : when you have hoards of users dependent on a workflow, it is just DOWNRIGHT IRRESPONSIBLE to automatically install a new UI that dramatically changes their flow and is more complex.   I'm a software developer, and would never dream of automatically installing such an imposing change to workflow without an option to revert.  It's one thing if it is was just different - but still simple in its own way.  But in this case, it is not only different, but also significantly more complex (and yes, I've spent the time going through the online instructions that describe it).

Please provide an option to revert to the old UI.  And, please, in the future, whenever making significant changes to workflow, provide an option to revert, and a fair warning before any install.

And finally, a rant : it disturbs me greatly that at least some portion of my monthly fees are going towards you re-arranging, and renaming elements of the UI, as opposed to _true_ advancements in image processing.