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Tue, Mar 17, 2020 3:13 PM

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Camera Raw 12: Not updating XMP files for HDR or Panorama

When creating HDR files or merging panoramas, ACR does not save/update complete XMP data files. Star-rating changes or file adjustments are only recorded if image files are saved to a separate format, not if 'Done' is clicked in the ACR window.

MacOS 10.13.6
ACR 12.2.0.386

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Champion

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3K Messages

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6 months ago

HDR and panorama files are DNG files. They don't have XMP (sidecar) data files. All edits and metadata are stored inside the DNG file header.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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6 months ago

Thanks, didn't think about that. Then I revise the original complaint that it is not properly updating DNG files created from Canon .CR3 RAWs. Have not tested with .CR2s and ACR 12

Adobe Administrator

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6 months ago

Evan can you give me a step-by-step list of what you are doing? What you expect to see at the end? What you are seeing instead?

Adobe Photography Products

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6 months ago

Rikk,
Standard workflow is:
Images are imported into Photo Mechanic with XMP metadata files, and rated after import. 
1-star images are selected and opened in Camera Raw
HDR and Panorama files are created in Camera Raw, automatic adjustments are applied, and resulting DNG files are rated 2 stars.
Click Done I return to Photo Mechanic, select the 2-star rated files, and reopen in Camera Raw for editing.

In the past (with .CR2 files and all previous Camera Raw versions) this workflow was successful. With .CR3 files and ACR 12, only one DNG file (if any, and usually not the first one) retains metadata, the others do not retain the new rating applied in ACR or any of the adjustments.

My current work-around is to click Done after merging, return to Photo Mechanic, sort by modification time, and select the newly created DNG files. Then I re-open them in ACR and apply edits as I go.

If I select the merged files and Save them, the edits and ratings are retained.

Hope this helps.

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6 months ago

To troubleshoot, if you apply the star rating via Photoshop after the Camera Raw merge, do the ratings stick?  File>File... Basic>Rating.

Adobe Photography Products

Quality Engineering - Customer Advocacy 

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6 months ago

Yesterday after processing I received a pop-up in Camera Raw that 'Settings have been updated'.
Testing today it appears that the issue has been resolved- when merging files to HDR, changing the rating in ACR, and clicking done, the DNG files are retaining both the new rating and the ACR adjustments. I'll let you know if any other issues come up this week. Thanks for the quick reply.

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2 months ago

Unfortunately, my success came because I was editing a folder of images originally from ACR 11. I still have had no success with ACR 12 saving any adjustments to DNG files, currently running ACR 12.3.0.493. With the current version there is also an additional issue. Previously, if I saved the adjusted files in any format (JPEG, TIFF, etc) the DNG file would be updated with the current adjustments. With this version the DNG is no longer saved with any adjustments, just the default values. The only thing recognized in ACR when opening the files is the star rating applied in Photo Mechanic. I've attempted with both XMP sidecar files and XMP data embedded.
Thanks for any ideas.

Champion

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"The only thing recognized in ACR when opening the files is the star rating applied in Photo Mechanic."

That may be your clue. Most likely Photo Mechanic deletes the edit info from the XMP files when it updates these, because it can't read Adobe edits.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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2 months ago

Thanks for the tip Johan, it appears you are correct and a recent Photo Mechanic update has resolved the issue.

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2 months ago

Every time I think I've made progress the problem remains unsolved. Per my last post I updated Photo Mechanic, and it seemed to work, but again, I was using a folder previously edited. I tested a Bridge workflow (import from card, rate, open in ACR) and still have the same issue, Bridge does not read any saved data from the DNG files, or update the ratings changed in ACR. Now I'm stumped again.

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Hey Evan, I feel your pain.  Have you tried reverting ACR to the previous version, even if purely to test whether it is just an ACR 12 issue?  Personally I'm happy running a LegacyACR till any issues with it are ironed out.  (You also need to revert Bridge if you use it) 

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2 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I have a newer Canon shooting .CR3 files, so I'm forced to use ACR 12. Never had this issue with ACR 11 or before.

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2 months ago

Ahh. You could use the latest DNG converter and the old ACR?