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Mon, Jul 13, 2020 9:39 PM

Adobe Camera Raw Bad Usability

With the recente ACR update, things went really bad for the desktop user.
FThe vertical Filmstrip switched to a horizontal one, which uses almost half of the screen (precious area). This is ok in LR to select photos, etc, but no to EDIT!
As before (vertical strip) is great, as on a Widescreen wh have enough vertical lateral area, but NOT on the botton of the screen. This change really makes no sense.

And then we crop...and the image keeps small and is not zoomed automatically to fill the screen (and I could not find how to do it by default).

I have asked support to roll back, as this seems to make us go away from ACR for Pro grade cameras and move to LR.

Please do not destroy a great product.

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Camera Raw 12.3: Crop Tool problems

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1 y ago

You want support to roll back: Installers can be found here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb...

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1 y ago

I really hope that Adobe can tell via Creative Cloud how many people are reverting.

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Considering one does not use the CC app to install a previous version of ACR.....

Installers can be found here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb...

Now do you know how to turn OFF auto updates?

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Yes, I do not use auto update where possible in case a software company releases a dud version. Ahem.  They may not be aware of people reverting ACR but they might spot people reverting Bridge to 10.04 via CC. 

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You and others DO NOT want auto update IF you roll back to a previous version.
And it's not common knowledge one has to roll back Bridge despite the many times I and others have informed others here and elsewhere they should.
Should you assume Adobe is tracking such reverting to older versions and that's solely due to dissatisfied ACR users? Should you assume all ACR users even use Bridge?

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I know. That is why I said "I do not use auto update."   - No I do no assume it, but they "might spot" it - and who knows they might even give us the features we had back.  

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I know.
And everyone else here who may decide to roll back ACR?

No I do no assume it, but they "might spot" it - and who knows they might even give us the features we had back.  
So you work for Adobe and you know they log how many people roll back Bridge (or download ACR) and that's attributed to people who don't like the new version of ACR.
If you have only imagined it, you haven't experienced it.

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Well, I just hope someone does care enough about us to fix it.  It can be done, just needs Ps/Pr style moveable panels, so we can hide what we don't use,  an option to crop with the frame not the canvas, a toolbar like we had, and a proper set of keyboard shortcuts.

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I agree with you Ash. Among other things, I'm a real estate photographer and Camera Raw was so efficient to get those photos edited and off to my clients. It takes me - at a minimum - twice as long to edit now.  (Which for a real estate photographer is leaving $ on the table.) 

Yes! Moveable panels! That would be so helpful. Please let us arrange our workspace the way it works best for our individual workflow styles.  The crop option you suggested: that's a no-brainer as well.  I assume, (no, I don't work for Adobe and I don't know for sure

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I agree with you Ash. Among other things, I'm a real estate photographer and Camera Raw was so efficient to get those photos edited and off to my clients. It takes me - at a minimum - twice as long to edit now.  (Which for a real estate photographer is leaving $ on the table.) 

Yes! Moveable panels! That would be so helpful. Please let us arrange our workspace the way it works best for our individual workflow styles.  The crop option you suggested: that's a no-brainer as well.  I assume, (no, I don't work for Adobe and I don't know for sure

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4 m ago

The cropping is beyond bad. What I like though is the shift-esc »safety«. 

1. Please make cropping like before, or at least give the possibility to enable the old behavior.

2. Let us zoom in before rotating and cropping without the crop tool zooming out again like mad. Why did you do that??

3. Please let us choose the background colors and the color of the crop frame. <3 

4. Please disable the rotation animation. It just takes too long. When I have lots of reproductions that have to be rotated, I waste my time waiting for the slow rotation to occur. Why did you do that??

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We need to keep pushing this, it does not seem to be getting through yet.

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...it does not seem to be getting through...

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Ever constructive there Rodders, not to mention sounding like a stuck record whilst the number of people trying to get this issue sorted ticks higher.  (Pot- kettle!)

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Ashy: When someone comes here and makes a suggestion for the first time, it carries some weight.

When someone comes here and repeats the same thing over and over and over again, ongoing for 7 months, in multiple threads (stuck record) it carries no weight and invoke the insanity meme. 

We can both stop; let's agree to.

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I will continue to push for anything that I think will improve my and others efficiency and happiness, that will have no effect on anyone who does not want to use it.   

Adding a checkbox (and underlying code) to be able to draw a rectangle and manipulate that rectangle to crop without moving or resizing the image underneath should not provide too much of a challenge to re-instate. 

The ability to manipulate the workspace is hardly a massive ask for those of us that would prefer to match other programs, and customising KBSC would seem like the obvious thing to achieve in the mid term for a suite of programs that function in such an intergraded way.

You are more than welcome to stop trying to put me down, but I doubt you will.

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This forum needs a complaint button on posts. I'm tired of seeing legit issues and suggestions answered with insults.

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4 m ago

Yeah, they never put things back. It's just like, forget about the workflow that you used to use, get used to it. I'm still struggling with the loss of functionality when using an Apple magic mouse in ACR. When zoomed in to 100% or any size where the image is bigger than the window, scrolling (left right-up down) while using the adjustment brush is no more. Instead, scrolling now changes the size of the brush! Anyone have a fix for this? I haven't been able to fine one...