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Wed, Jul 8, 2020 6:19 PM

Not a problem

Camera Raw/Bridge: Missing Straighten Tool

After upgrade to PS CC 2020 21.2 ACR 12.3.0.493 is missing straighten tool. This should be basic functionality of the product. Geometry DOES NOT work like straighten tool, in that a minimum of two lines vs. one line must be drawn.

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5 months ago

https://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2020/06...

The Crop Tool — The Crop, Straighten, and Rotate tools have been combined into a single panel.

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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Less than helpful. Less than useful. Adobe took function away with this decision. This is a feature downgrade.

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It's not gone, nor as you report, missing, so how did Adobe take functionality away? 
Anyway, now you know where to find the not missing Straighten Tool; you are welcome. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers"

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I don't see the straighten tool in the crop tool. The straighten tool defined as "draw a single line and the image levels to that line." Sure, I can rotate (by shrinking my view window to less than fit). Maybe I'm calling it by the wrong name, level tool or straighten tool. I'm not seeing that functionality in 21.2.

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I don't see the straighten tool in the crop tool. 

Again, IT IS THERE and works as it always has:


Select it, Click and Drag.

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Oh, geez. OK. Thanks.

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You are (geez ) welcome. 

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I admire your patience, Andrew...  If people would phrase things just a little more positively, there would perhaps be less of the tone that seems to come up so often.  

Just and example: in this thread, the OP wrote (in part) "is missing straighten tool. This should be basic functionality of the product."

My reaction would have been better, had that have been phrased as "How do I find the Straighten tool in the updated UI for ACR?"

Gets to the same issue but more nicely, does not evoke any sense of antagonism.  (The OP was not in any way antagonistic as some posters have certainly been, but the subtleties to which I point would make this forum a more pleasant experience for others...)

(as you can see, this was directed at the general audience and not towards OP)
 I would like to encourage a collegial, helpful, dialogue twixt posters and responders!

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5 months ago

I think if the panels evolve to be moveable and closeable (some I never use, and they need to be able to all fit on a screen), and short-cuttable many of the current issues will be solved.  Oh and the option of old -style cropping.

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5 months ago

The irritating part of the "upgrade" - well one of the 842 irritating things, is that if you use the straighten/leveling tool, it reverts back to the Edit panel when you're done, and you have to then re-choose/re-click the damn crop tool to use the leveling tool again. I shoot hundreds of photos of property on the Gulf of Mexico and need to use the leveling tool on image after image. Gone are the days when I could just reach up to the tools at the top and grab that straighten/leveling tool with a single click.  

You know what really kills me is that now there is this vast unused area where that old toolbar was at the top, and they could use that the exact same way tools are laid out in the toolbar in Photoshop. The entire top row could be one-click access to to about 20 tools. Now I have to make three times of number of clicks to get to those tools. What an absurd design/"upgrade"   

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My (temporary) fix is to reduce the UI scaling in Bridge to 100% and text size to the maximum, then you can have most of the panels open if you have a big enough screen.  Not sure my eyes will cope though.   Really need panel control like you get in Premiere/Photoshop etc.

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5 months ago

Judging from the number of questions and posts, 21.2 came as both a surprise and a shock for many Photoshop users. There were a lot of problems identified in 21.1.3 that I'm probably not the only one looking for fixes for when the word "UPDATE" appeared on my CC app. Andrew, I appreciate your patience with those of us that feel like a brick or two have landed on our head with this release. Perhaps we should have kept up with Julianne Kost 's webinars and blogs, but, well, a lot has been going on in the world and many of us who depend on this product for our livelihoods are fighting like hell just to keep our businesses open.

In a separate thread, a poster who identified himself as working for IBM lamented the fact that significant functional and user interface change was introduced in a maintenance release. I couldn't agree with that poster more. I have been actively using Photoshop since 3.5 in 1998. At that time, I was a Certified Architect in IBM. To be certified as an architect, one also had to meet the qualifications for certification as a Project Manager and Management Consultant. There were 300 Certified Architects in IBM at the time. So I have a little bit of experience with this product and a lot of experience developing, delivering and maintaining software.

It is also confusing as to where to go to get help. At one point, I thought I understood it to be in the Adobe Support Community, and in previous releases when I reported bugs that's where I went, but I've seen several posts that said if you think there's a problem, come to the Photoshop Family page. OK, I'm here, I'm confused because an every day function that was on the top bar was moved to a dialog that I have to intentionally open, and then while it's the same icon, it's not intuitive, at least to me, to have it off to the right of an angle control. Forgive me for being confused, and frustrated, but don't shame me. It doesn't help. It doesn't help me have confidence that I'm being supported and it doesn't help to get it when coming from the "Community" to the "Family." Just saying. This is a really hard way to figure out all of the sudden and dramatic changes to an already super-complicated product.

On a professional photographers group I am a part of, we have had a separate conversation regarding whether or not to load 21.2 In response to suggesting that folks consider waiting because of the volume change, problems not fixed (performance is still an issue that seems to be getting worse) and new challenges, I made the following comment:

"I do want to clarify, we’re going through a rough patch on PS, but it is still by and large the strongest tool on the market for photo post. It’s also possible some issues could reasonably chalked up to COVID (I can see how it could impact QA process). That being said, it’s all the more important to slow down releasing some of the gee-whiz-bangs and focus on quality."

I stand by that comment. I am not trying to be critical of any one, and most especially, Adobe. The day that I met Terry White, I swore I would never denigrate the company.


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While i'm a huge advocate for change, Adobe should always keep in mind that there are professionals who need to use their apps for 8-10 hours/day and that small adjustments to tools can have profound effects on our workflow and therefore, livelihood. 

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I agree - I do not understand why Adobe made this change at all.  I have a lot of work I've been waiting to get to and there's no way I can work with ACR 12.3 or any changes made in Bridge. I can't express how disappointed I am with you, Adobe.  You've been my shining star for years. 

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I have been an advocate for PS and associated products for years. I fully support change where necessary but only changes for the better. There may be a reason why the tools were moved over to the right and a blank space left at the top- I don't see one but could live with it. What I can't understand is why the functional, speedy and super-efficient crop tool would be replaced by a clunky, inefficient and counter-intuitive piece of rubbish!!

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4 months ago

Thanks to this thread I found the straighten tool. Whenever I use this though, the photo closes. This upgrade has been infuriating. 

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"Upgrade"? ;-) 

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Now I'm hesitant to click on any link from Adobe for anything at all. I've been an Adobe customer for close to 20 years.

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Glad you found the tool. That's the aim of such forums.
Can you describe what you mean by ”Whenever I use this though, the photo closes”? Crash? Dialog disappeared?

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@andrea_scott_k5qvx899kj4b3 Andrew (Scott) - when you say the photo closes - because there is not a "finished with straightening" button- you need to choose a panel to keep working on it, if you inadvertently press enter twice the image will close, (as "Done" will be "pressed" for you when you press "enter"- it is a "feature")

 

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2 months ago

Agree with all the negative comments on here. regarding the crop tool. "IF IT AIN'T BROKEN DON'T FIX IT"

 

 

 

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2 months ago

I don't mind Adobe moving the furniture.  Unless it's me and user error, I think they took away the ability to do multiple straighten transformations at a time.  That was one of my most frequent use of Camera RAW.  You have something with 4 edges in a photo taken in perspective.  Straightening just one edge doesn't do the trick.  You have to do at least 3 and probably 4 sides to get the things square.  Am I missing something.  I've tried every quick key, double-click and combo I can think of.

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"Am I missing something.  I've tried every quick key, double-click and combo I can think of."

 

Yes, you are.

 

Take a look at Edit, Perspective Warp. That should do everything that you want.  

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Thank you.  That solves it for within Photoshop.  Now to find it in Bridge's Camera RAW tool.  I don't suppose you know where it is in that tool (Adobe Bridge), do you?

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ACR is the same for Bridge.

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In ACR (as opposed to within Ps) you are looking for the "Geometry" panel, then the "Upright" selection, and the "Guided"

Alternatively use the keyboard shortcut "Shift - T" which takes you straight past the terrible interface.

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It's not that I was looking for it in Geometry. I was looking for it period. I was corrected that it is in the Crop pull down. Shift-T is way less than obvious. I have forced my brain and muscle memory to conform to Photoshop's much panned new interface.

But thanks!

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Ash Mills!  Perfect!

Wow!  That really got buried, but I'm glad it's still in there.

I thought sure it was in the Crop tool where there is also a Straighten, but only for one edge.

Geometry is the answer!  (Isn't it always?)

Here's a little visual and procedure for others to follow in the future.  On the left is the "before"; on the right the "after":

1. Select image(s) and go to Camera Raw

2. Scroll down and open Geometry or use Shift-T

3. Choose the "Guided" mode

4. Place guides along image references used for straightening.

Then continue with whatever you need to do.

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Oh, I missed your question, a little unrelated to my original one. But yes, Ash is correct. This is a useful function in ACR. I actually use it a lot, especially for correcting vertical or horizontal (or both) perspective problems. It is WAY more useful than the vertical or horizontal adjustments, which are pretty much blunt instruments. This works kind of like the wide angle adjustment in Photoshop (does/used to...I haven't used it in a long time).