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350 Points

Tue, Nov 13, 2012 12:56 PM

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Elements: PSE 11 Organizer does not sort alphabetically

There is no way of organizing files in alphabeticall order for us who has been giving names and numbers to our files for decades. This is very frustrating as it is not possible to scan all pictures in filename order and to fool the system by changing exif data is time consuming. Please fix this bug and respect us old schoolers who has 10.000 thousands of pictures in our registers. The whole Element community waits for your positive response :)

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2.1K Messages

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32.2K Points

8 years ago

Which version of Elements Organizer are you working with?

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926 Points

8 years ago

Brett,
Photoshop Elements 11 Organizer does not have alphanumeric sorting by file names as did all of my previous versions (2-10). Like Tia, I have thousands of photo files named sequentially but whose dates are not the same sequence (some have been renamed, some have been re-scanned from slides). I know there is a partial and clunky work-around involving instant albums but then I can only work in that specific album. This is such a major over-sight that I have had to request a refund for my PhotoShop/Premiere Elements 11 (I complement Adobe for promptly issuing a full refund). I can now only use PSE/PrE 10 but I am fully prepared to send my money back to Adobe for a corrected PSE/PrE 11 and to continue my yearly upgrades as I have done for the last 10 years.

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I am aware of such things Anthony, which is exactly why I wanted to know what version Tia is working with. This question has long been asked, well before Elements 11 came around, so my answer will depend on what she has to say.

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926 Points

Brett: Just to be clear (and I presume you know this), Elements Organizer version 11 is unique in not having any alphanumeric sorting by file name. All previous versions (at least back to v.2) had alphanumeric sorting in the Folder Location Display. The Thumbnail Display had only time sorting (as did the Import Batch Display). V.11 only offers Time and Import Batch sorting in either the Folder Hierarchy or the Folder Location displays. This major omission in v.11 will not be apparent to most users until they change file names or if they are among the few who re-scan images (I use name suffixes so duplicates are sorted sequentially, e.g. name-01a.jpg, name-01b.jpg). I really hope that Adobe will restore this most basic of all functions to v.11 or at least to v.12 (I can wait a year, but not happily). Thanks for your kind attention.

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That is correct. We are aware of this and looking into what we can do.

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926 Points

I am delighted to hear that and will be patient. Please keep me informed.
Many thanks for your good work!

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926 Points

See http://forums.adobe.com/message/48676... for another cry for correction.

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70 Points

8 years ago

Hmm, and that's about where I am. I've used PS since version 1 and all of the Elements versions also.
The Oganiser I'm sticking with because of the facial recognition and because it builds a database: two features not in LR.
I'm scanning and have around 25,000 items so far, and am bemused at having to print contact sheets out in the crude printer function that is native to Win7: 35 items to a page.
It seems bonkers to me that files can not be printed in name order from within Organiser, and yes, I want to view then by folder and individual file names as well. Most shots in a folder are sequential, after all.
Anyone using it seriously is going to have some sort of incremental file name structure.

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True, Lightroom does not have a facial recognition ability. But I'm not sure what you mean by Organizer builds a database but Lightroom does not. They are both database driven applications using which work with a catalog. It's very similar in fact.

In Organizer you can (pre-version 11) sort by name in Folder Location display mode.

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166 Points

8 years ago

Had I known that PSE10 didn't have this problem, I'd have returned my PSE11 and purchased the older version instead. I'm new to PSE coming from Photoshop & Bridge, and the loss of file names strikes me as an extremely poor design decision in PSE11. It's no doubt too late for me to change, so my decision is whether to trash PSE11 and go back to Photoshop.

BTW, because I'm merging pics from multilple sources, not only do I need to sort by file name, I need to sort by original date/time also, and Organizer 11 seems to use a modified date instead. So my pics are sorted by when I last edited them, rather than by when they were snapped. What's up with that?

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926 Points

8 years ago

I strongly recommend that you call Adobe, explain that you need alphanumeric sorting and ask for a refund.

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260 Points

8 years ago

I agree with the need for alphanumeric sorting. Every file I have is sorted that way and the choices now available in PSE 11 make a mess of visualization. I am thinking about reverting to PSE 9, despite many fine improvements in PSE 11 (such as geotagging in Places).

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62 Points

8 years ago

I agree with the need for alphanumeric sorting.

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260 Points

8 years ago

I have found a workaround that, while somewhat tedious (especially after switching to OSE 11 from PSE 9), has -- so far -- worked for me. Select a folder having pictures in "My Folders" view, right-click to reveal "Create an Instant Album", click to create the album, open the resultant album in Albums view, and set to sort by Album Order. You can then manually move any pictures within the album to whatever order you want. Note that you can use "New Album Category" to create something equivalent to a file folder hierarchy. It would be so much simpler if folders could be sorted alphanumerically so we would not have to make an album but at least this kudge seems to work.

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926 Points

8 years ago

See my earlier comment about this impractical work-around.

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136 Points

8 years ago

I fully agree that it is necessary that we can sort our photos by file-name or file-number. I have many slides and after the holidays I made slides with a titel for a slideshow. Now I am in trouble. PE put the titel-ones at the end, because PE sorts by date.
I have PE8 and expected that this was solved in PE 11, but no.
If this problem is not solved in a short time I have to look for another program, unfortunately.
Please Photoshop-makers try to have more feeling with what your customers need.

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194 Points

8 years ago

Sorting by file name in Photoshop Elements Organizer 11. Sorting by oldest or newest is awful when you are trying to find a photo but do not remember when it was taken. This was a great mistake and or omission.

I have come up with an awkward work around solution. Fortunately, when I updated to Photoshop Elements 11, I did not uninstall Photoshop Elements 10. So, I use Optimizer 10 now and do not use Optimizer 11. I really shouldn't have to do this if Adobe had not eliminated the option.

I do like the improvements Adobe made to Elements 11 Editor, but as a result of their arbitrary decision not to allow users the option of sorting by file name, they have forced me to make the decision to not purchase any more of my yearly updates of Photoshop Elements. Until Adobe gives users back the sort by file name option, I too will find another program....there are other program developers who listen to their users complaints and suggestions.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Sorting images by file name in Photoshop Elements Organizer 11.

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194 Points

8 years ago

In Photoshop Elements Organizer 11 sorting by oldest or newest is awful when you are trying to find a photo but do not remember when it was taken. I would rather continue sorting by file name as I could in all previous versions. Your decision to omit this option was a great mistake.

I have come up with an awkward work around solution. Fortunately, when I updated to Photoshop Elements 11 I did not uninstall Photoshop Elements 10. So, I use Optimizer 10 now and do not use Optimizer 11.

I do like the improvements Adobe made to Elements 11 Editor, but as a result of your arbitrary decision not to allow users the option of sorting by file name, you have forced me to make the decision to not purchase any more of my yearly updates of Photoshop Elements until the option is restored.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Elements 11 Organizer: Sorting by File Name is Needed.

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62 Points

8 years ago

Dear sirs, I bought Photoshop Elements 11 and was very astonished, that in the "organiser" is not possible, to sort the pictures in a folder after the criterion “name of picture”.

All my pictures are in folders sorted in spite of years and theme. In the folder the pictures are renamed, so I get the order of pictures, in which I want, show them.

Also I could switch them in this order easily to Premier Elements, to make a good slideshow.

You should give back the criterion immediately! It is a real and serious lack.

Uwe Heuser

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Elements 11: Lack to sort after "name of picture" in the orgenizer.

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926 Points

8 years ago

PSE11/PrE11 Organizer must be able to sort files alphabetically by name as my versions 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 did. Without this basic feature, I cannot use it. I have already cancelled PSE11/PrE11 and am getting a refund. I am prepared to return to PSE/PrE when this omission is addressed.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Elements 11 Organizer: Sort Alphabetically by File Name.

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382 Points

8 years ago

Problem is :- Photoshop 11 Directory sort there is No sort by File Number. This was available in older version 9.

I am however very pleased with Elements 11.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Elements 11: sort by file number?.