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Photoshop: Please support PixelBender in CS6

Why pn earth would Adobe drop this hugely successful and uniqe set of plug-ins/filters! I know a lot of people are very unhappy about this. I really hope Adobe changes its mind and comes out with an upgrade/patch to fix this problem.
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  • I'm a peel off white user. I find this filter invaluable and now in CS6 I can't use it. If I want to use it I have to fire it up in CS4 on my G5. that is not progress. I read on the the Adobe labs page that Pixel Bender is built into CS6 if this is the case then older pixel bender plugins should work right?

    I'm not very happy with this. Maybe Photoshop needs to build a peel off White into Photoshop instead of all this gimmicky stuff. I still have not found a method to peel off white as good as the old bergdesign plugin.
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    • well for now I'm running CS4 alongside CS6 it installed problem free. I have a few 32bit plugins I can still use so it not so bad. I found one of those actions not even close to peel off white. I'll keep looking.
      thanks again chris
    • Chris Cox, you state that the OilPaint filter is built into Photoshop CS6. That is not exactly accurate. There is a filter that bears some resemblance to the OilPaint filter that shipped with the Pixel Bender version we had previously, but you cannot achieve the same effects with it, so it is not the same filter. It is still necessary to run two versions of Photoshop to be able to access the "real" OilPaint filter.
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  • one other problem i encountered with the new "oil paint" filter is that it does not support my graphics processor. One more reason to keep older version of Photoshop.
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  • If a feature that worked in a previous version is dropped from a newer version, the only possible reasons would be:

    1. Too much work to get it working - means really bad software design
    2. Feature not relevant / important - means someone made a mistake when previous release's features were drafted out
    3. Expensive to support and company does not see a ROI - seems most plausible reason. In which case, Adobe can always say 'feature is available but not supported so please do not call us about it'. This would have been a respectable decision.

    Just dropping saying 'there is no interest' is just corporate arrogance. How do you measure 'level of interest'. I am unaware of any public voting conducted. Microsoft did the same thing when one day they decided to drop copy paste feature from their windows phones !!!
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  • Jeffrey Tranberry (Chief Customer Advocate) January 29, 2013 20:18
    "How do you measure 'level of interest?"

    # of downloads, and in-product usage. (Launch Photoshop see Help>Adobe Product Improvement Program... to opt in if you haven't)

    Pixel Bender was a technology preview available on Adobe Labs: http://labs.adobe.com/about/ that was never a shipping/officially supported product/feature: http://labs.adobe.com/about/faq/#itemA-8

    Oil Paint was the most used aspect of Pixel Bender so it spawned the new Oil Paint filter in CS6.
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    "Oil Paint was the most used aspect of Pixel Bender so it spawned the new Oil Paint filter in CS6."
    Except that the OilPaint filter in CS6, which *could have been the same filter as the PixelBender filter, simply isn't. You cannot achieve the same results with the new version as with the old, so that it remains necessary to have an earlier version of photoshop installed in order to have functionality that we had previously.
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  • Jeffrey Tranberry (Chief Customer Advocate) January 29, 2013 21:04
    Yes, the Oil Paint Filter was simplified when it was officially added to Photoshop. There were probably good reasons for this (user testing, data on slider use, supportability, etc). I wasn't on the team that implemented the Oil Paint filter so don't know all the details myself.

    The Idea/feature request to bring back the entirety of "Support Pixel Bender in CS6" is highly unlikely. Sorry, that's the reality given the reasons Chris has mentioned earlier on this thread.

    It feels as if most people on this thread lament missing some additional control in the new CS6 Oil Paint filter. So, it may make more sense to frame a new topic around specific requests to make Oil Paint more powerful with visual examples of what you're trying to achieve. (I know there are some good examples on this thread already)

    I can't promise anything, but I can tell you that would be in the realm of something that might be possible compared to officially supporting all of Pixel Bender, the filters it contains, and the SDK by adding it to Photoshop.
    • I would think that all that Adobe has to do is copy/paste the code from the OilPaint filter in PixelBender into the wrecked version that is in CS6, and job done.

      The differences between the OilPaint filter in CS5.5 and CS6 are clear and obvious, and should not need anyone to send examples - all anyone has to do is open the two versions and look at them. There are sliders in the original version that are missing in the new one, and Adobe added a "texture" slider that completely changes the visual effect of the filter from the original.

      What is most puzzling to me is, when it was determined that the OilPaint filter was valuable enough to bring into the main app, why it was then changed to be something totally different. [And much less useful.]
    • As far as "user testing" and "data on slider use" - from the reactions on this thread, I think it is obvious that neither was attempted.
      We don't want or need the OilPaint filter to be made "more powerful" - we only need it to do what it did before.
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  • I realize that most of the people here are complaining about the oil painting filter. I really don't care about this filter or really have a use for it.

    What I do have a use for is the peel off white plugin from berg design. this plugin works/worked flawlessly and removed all the white including % of white. So far what I seen, actions created by others, does not work as well in the gray areas and end up converting the file to grayscale. Maybe the photoshop guys should talk to the guys at berg design to incorporate peel off white into the app.

    I would really like to see this in the next version.

    I believe the original peel off white was made with pixel factory.
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    see the change log
  • I’m frustrated
    I'm yet another who uses the Pixel Bender plugin. I didn't even realize it wasn't supported in CS6 until I'd already put out to buy the new bundle.

    I use P.B. extensively in "artifying" certain stock for illustrations / graphics in games (board, card, video, etc.), web work, book covers, prints, etc. I'm sorry, but the Oil Paint filter isn't all that was in P.B., and that filter doesn't match up in quality either. P.B. was better, and it's approach to adjusts produced a slightly wider range of effects. Adobe, you punched a monster hole in my workflow!

    This is a serious loss after throwing down quite a chunk of change for CS6. Time to reload PS CS5... just to use the best art based plugin ever made... for free.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Egads, Ive spent this whole day trying to install PixelBender into my PS5, and my classmates are awaiting why I cant, and want an answer from Adobe.
    It just plain wont install on either of my new Macs.

    Finally, yes, finally, I found this forum.
    Ive lost one day of my life trying to deal with this, what is Adobe thinking of when they abandon us like this?
    I have an older version of PS, 3, and I am certainly not going to buy PS6 till Adobe fixes Oil Paint the way it should be.

    So let us know, can we install PixelBender into PS3?

    Lets get this pathetic thing clarified and written out what we are to do if we want to get PixelBender and how to do it, and if we cannot get it, for heavens sake TELL US!
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  • I’m confused
    OK, my classmates and I are waiting,,,,,,
    Can we install pixelbender into PS3, we know PS5 wont do it.

    Yes or no for PS3.
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  • I’m thankful and hopeful
    Our class is using PS5 (v.12.04x32), but some of the students are using 6(v13).
    I still have PS3, thats why I asked about it.
    I do know what Im using, but would love to know how to get this Oil Paint plug in.

    Today I will ask the other people who have PS6, if they have tried Oil Paint, and how they like it. I did read that its not what it used to be, but if it would fill my needs, then I shall upgrade to PS6.
    The Flikr albums sure are impressive.
    Thank you for the help and info, if I cant get PixelBender into CS3, I will come back and ask more.
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  • I’m severely disappointment, especially for the price
    Pixel Bender is superior. It has more potential effects results acheivable at the finte level than Oil Paint, some of which cannot be accomplished with ease using combined effects from off standard filters. Oil Pain(t) is a step backward.

    P.B. is better at adjusting paint effects for varied image resolutions. Oil Paint's focus is too much on texturing and does not have the same finite control over other aspects of emulating not just the effect of a real world painting but how such would look as a "photographed" image presented in 2D. If you turn down the angular lighting inn O.P., the paint effect almost disappears and all you have is a blurry image.

    I use P.B. extensively in various pursuits, and the loss of it put a big hole in my work flow. I have had to reinstall PS5 in order to use it. I make sure anything I save in PS6 is set to maximum compatibility, but sometimes I have to redo an image in CS5 because certain work in PS6 still doesn't show the same in PS5 to continue work flow mid stream. I have to constantly think through what I want for a finished product and then guess whether I need to start in PS5 or PS6... the latter of which is one of the biggest mem-hogs I've even seen in a new program.
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  • Solved, or at least somewhat solved, I just upgraded to PS6 and used the OilPaint filter in there, its OK. But as you say, its not what the old PB one was.
    But it will have to be good enough for me for the time being.
    Thank you for all your help and information!
    I shall sign off for now.
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  • Jeffrey Tranberry (Chief Customer Advocate) April 02, 2013 19:28
    FYI - Legacy downloads for the Pixel Bender plug-in that are compatible with Photoshop CS4, Photoshop CS5 (12.0) and Photoshop CS5 (12.1) have been relocated from Adobe Labs and consolidated here:

    http://www.adobe.com/devnet/pixelbend...
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  • I’m Sad and Disappointed
    That was very nice of them Jeffrey, however when I downloaded and installed it in my CS4 it doesn't contain Oil Paint which was the best part of PB, IMHO.. Too bad Adobe has chosen not to give us the original....
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  • I’m perplexed
    For some reason, I still couldnt get it to install, many error messages, tried both my Macs with different versions of PS on them. Nothing,,,,,,
    But I did buy PS6, and it has Oil Paint filter built into it.
    I wonder why Pixel Bender is so elusive, I think they are just teasing us.
    Maybe to get us all to buy PS6? Anyway thats what I did.
    Jane
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  • I’m hopeful maybe?
    Its indeed sad, Im thinking of all the things that Adobe does perfectly, and they can't really make us happy with Pixel Bender.

    In the meantime, we all can use PS6.

    So come on Adobe, fix PB, we all know you can do it.
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  • Went to PS CC and no pixel Bender. I am hugely disappointed!
    A little angry too.
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  • Hope Adobe RETHINKS!!! their policy and continue supporting Artists and Creatives around the World!
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