Photoshop: Why change the crop tool in CS6? How can I get the old behavior back?

Why did the crop method change? For so many years, cropping worked by moving the crop frame in the image. Now, you have to move the image around the crop frame. For those of us who actually came out of the darkroom, the new way is awkward. Why did it have to change?
42 people have
this question
+1
Reply
next » « previous
  • I came out of the darkroom, too. And I like the new cropping tool comming from Lightroom to Photoshop.

    If you whant to use the old version, you can do this by manualy changing.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Jeffrey Tranberry (Chief Customer Advocate) May 09, 2012 13:49
    Many of the new crop tool features are the result of feedback from customers.

    If you prefer the old behavior better, simply click the gear icon in the Crop tool options bar and check "Use Classic Mode":

  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Thanks Karl and Jeffrey! I hadn't seen the "Classic" option. I'll be damned if I can see an advantage by using the new way, but I've been training myself to "go the opposite way" when nudging the new-style crop frame. If there's some advantage to the new style that I'm missing, please don't hold back, and just let me know. I'd hate to be so stuck in my old ways that I miss something helpful.

    Daemon
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Jeffrey Tranberry (Chief Customer Advocate) May 09, 2012 14:41
    It may feed odd at first but it has advantages - especially if you start to rotate when you crop. The crop remains at 90 degrees and image moves within that frame. Makes visualizing the crop easier (unless you like turning your head 5-10 degrees to visualize your crop)
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • You're right, I suppose. Head-turning was always the way to visualize that magic that can happen with good cropping. It never seemed like a big effort, though.

    Anything else?

    Daemon
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Another option: Working in CS5, I first rotate the image: Image>Image Rotation>Arbitrary>In the Rotate Canvas Window, specify the rotation. Then the crop tool is square to the frame, and you don't have to tilt your head. I found it very difficult to judge whether or not the image was square to the frame when my head was tilted. BTW: At age 66, I also learned photo processing in the darkroom, working with silver halide; not silicone.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 1
    i switched it to classic mode.. but its still not behaving like it used to.

    I would always crop by clicking off the image, and then drag over to the desired crop
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 2
    I too want the old crop tool back. Classic mode doesn't cut it. The old way was simpler. I could hit C for the crop tool, hit the return key, put in my length, width, and resolution, and hit enter and it's done. With the new "improved" crop tool (set in "Classic" mode), I have to hit C, then return, then R, then put in length, width, and resolution. Then I have to grab the corners and crop, and hit enter. If I want to do anything else with the image after this, I feel like I have to get out of the crop tool to get rid of the crop box.

    I hope they come out with some kind of extension or plug-in to get the old tool back. I've used this one for a couple of months now, and it is slowing me down.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 1
    I think i found a solution. Try using the perspective crop tool. It has the old Height, width & res. It also has "front image" I have used all of these everyday in my job. I have no idea what Adobe was thinking! A true "classic" mode would be nice but this looks to be working. Best way to use the new crop tool is to NOT use it ;)
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 3
    Brian,

    Is there a way to constrain proportions with the perspective crop too? I can't find it.

    This does make me think it would be easy for Adobe to give us the old, classic crop tool. The more I use the new one, the less I like it.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • This reply was removed on 2012-06-06.
    see the change log
  • 1
    Yes Jim, they really missed the boat on this one! Hey Adobe .. you readin this????
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 2
    I find the new crop tool takes several steps to do what was simple & the size & resolution was controlled from the keyboard. Saved time & having to use the mouse or stylus to go to drop down menus.
    The cumbersome cropping in CS6 may be liked by novices, but for production people, it doesn't cut it.
    I do like having the added cropping ratio guides, but not the rest.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 3
    Let me add my complaint, I hate the new crop tool, I want the old tool back. In fact, I may end up dumping CS6 and going back to CS5 over this, it's that bad.

    I've been trying for a couple of weeks to get used to the CS6 crop tool and can not. It's not only inconsistent in the way it works, it's non-intuitive, doesn't work the way any other crop tool works and I constantly find myself fussing around to do what was a no-brainer before.

    Please at least give the ability to go back to the way it was -- the "Classic Mode" is not the way it was, it's not even a poor imitation.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 3
    Yeah, even in "classic mode", if you want to do a landscape crop on a portrait image, you have to start your sweep inside the dotted rectangle that is sitting in the middle of the image when you're doing a proportional crop. This is so... annoying!

    I am going back to 5.5 until they take care of this nonsense.

    Dear Adobe - Please make "classic mode" truly "classic mode" including not burying resolution.

    Dan Carlson
    (User since PS7)
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 5
    I'm a PS user since 2.0.1, and I would take that original crop tool over the current "improved" version. It seems that if 10% of your users want something new, you shouldn't penalize the 90% who are happy with the way things are (of course I'm making up these numbers, but I would bet that more veteran PS users than not would agree about the crop tool). I guess I can go back to the old version, but I do really like the new camera raw converter and the results I can get from it.

    When cropping with the old version (5.1), I would hit the C key, then hit return. I'd put in my width, tab, height, tab, resolution, and draw my crop box. Hit enter and it is done.

    Now (in "classic" mode) I have to hit the C key, hit return, hit the R key, width, tab, height, tab, resolution, tab, enter. Then to crop, I have to grab a corner (not that simple when it's right at the edge of the image) and reposition it and then grab the opposing corner and do the same. Or I can hit the return key again (to get out of some extra crop mode - I'm not sure why this was made this way) and then I can just draw my crop box. Then hit enter and the image is cropped, but you still have a lingering crop box around your image. I typically then hit the M key for the marquis tool so I don't have the crop box distracting me anymore.

    Another issue is that the old "front image" crop size is now buried deeper than it was before. That was another crop feature I used on a regular basis that is now harder to use.

    It's hard to explain what I have to do to crop images now because it is so damned complicated compared to how it could be if we could just have an actual classic mode. Please Adobe???

    PS: Another pet peeve of mine about CS6 PS is the black box behind the image. What's the point of that? I used to be able to just click on the desktop and make PS disappear (when no file was open). Now I have to hide PS (option-click on the desktop) to clear the desktop. I'm on a Mac. Not sure how this works on a Windows machine.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 1
    The new crop tool is not good enough.
    Why no reply when more than one person complains?

    This does need to be address.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 1
    Your right,

    I just tried to rotate my crop and some more odd things happen.

    Is there any harm in making classic mode a classic mode?

    Please make patch Adobe.
    Your users are asking.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 2
    Like so many things in an upgrade (whatever the software) it would appear that changes are made for no other reason than 'we had better change this to make the upgrade worthwhile' and very often, as in this crop tool thing, the change is most certainly not for the better.
    In my view, the upgrade from XP to Win 7 has the same problems, many things were changed that behaved far better in XP - changed just for the sake of a change - I loved XP and do not like Win 7, but have to get used to the stupid changes!
    It's about time someone from the design team (not from sales or any other department) of PS responded with their reasons for this - it makes me so angry!
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • How come when I hit enter will go to a crop view only and will not crop my picture, I have to hit enter angain and sometimes will work and other times will just show the grid.

    Can anyone help on this?, is there something that I selected by accident maybe
    • Andres,

      this happens when you are using a preset ration or a custom saved ratio. (Top Left)

      If you leave the crop tool on Unconstrained or Original ratio you will simply draw the crop and press enter once to crop.

      If a preset is selected when you enter the crop tool, the first view is the starting point as the likelihood of you wanting the exact center of the image may be slim.

      You can draw a more specific area at this time or rotate the image.
      Pressing return gives you an opportunity to rotate or resize the box or move the image. Pressing return again commits your choice.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Once you have the crop set, a double click is the quickest way I've found to set the crop.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I've been working at getting my head around the new set up and I find that once you get used to this new way of cropping it's not so bad!
    Here are some notes I have made for a couple of mates who are also having difficulties - I'd like to know if anyone finds it helpful or maybe not?

    Initial settings:
    don’t use ‘classic mode’
    select V tool and un-tick show transform controls on the toolbar.
    Select crop tool and then select Auto Show Overlay from the ‘Options for Crop Tool’ drop-down on the toolbar.
    Un-tick ‘Delete Cropped Pixels’ from tool bar.

    Straight forward crop:
    Select crop tool C.
    From crop selection box select existing crop size or make a new crop size by selecting ‘Size & Resolution’ and enter the new size, if you need this crop in future save it now.
    Draw the required crop and move to required part of image, hit X to change crop from landscape to portrait if necessary, then double click to make the crop.
    With V tool, move the image within the crop to new position then select C and double click to make the new crop.
    To remove the marque around the image press M.

    P key changes toggles between Classic and New Crop mode
    For precise size enter Size & Resolution in drop down tab
    Remove existing crop dimensions hit curled arrow at top or delete key
    Change tab at top to ‘Auto Show Overlay’, the grid only appears on the image when making the crop
    O key changes overlay grid
    Ctrl H also removes overlay
    H key removes outer grey area (but not in Classic Mode)
    To apply the crop hit the tick on toolbar or just double click
    M key hides distracting grey crop border after the crop
    X key to change the crop from portrait to landscape
    Auto straighten image with ‘Straighten’ tool on toolbar
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 4
    Thanks for making me feel like I'm not alone. The crop just is so bad. I do get Adobe's desire to keep giving us new features. Else why keep upgrading after a while if they can't come up with new improvements? I fall for it every time. I pay for the update because I have to. After a while though, their increasingly minimal attempts at providing new features becomes decreasingly valuable. It seems they recognize their limit on how much they can improve so now they're just making stuff up and packaging it in a new download button.

    The latest is the crop. For years we have all been able to simply press 'C', make the change and move on. Seems simple. It's a function to define the area we want to assign as the new canvas size. Thats' it. No improvement ever necessary right? Nope, not when a business has to rely on providing us with improvements. I can't wait for CS7 where you hold the brush with one button, and then drag the canvas around in the background and paint. It's gonna be greatest thing since the lens flare!

    I run a business where I have an editors cropping hundreds of images each day. A simple step has added a huge complication and I'm downgrading to CS5.

    I do really get a kick out of their attempt at the 'classic mode'. They obviously new people weren't going to like the new method or they wouldn't have given it to us. But if you're going to bother, why not just actually give us 'classic mode' and not some horrible hybrid?
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 1
    Yep! I agree with all you say - the change was quite unnecessary.
    The 'classic mode' has no bearing on the mode we would wish for other than the way the crop area is moved around on the image - the difference is, we can now choose to move the image around on the crop - Wow!
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Adobe?

    Not going to comment on this anymore???

    Hello?
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 1
    Switch your crop tool to the perspective crop tool (in flyout menu under crop tool) and you'll be able to work as you used to.

    If CS6 doesn't want you to allow this tool to be the default tool, you have to go to edit-keyboard shortcuts. From dropdown list, choose shortcuts for "tools". Then scroll down to the perspective crop tool and make the shortcut "C". This allows it to be cycled to by pressing "C" (or shift-C if you have that option enabled). It also allows it to be the default (last-used) tool.

    Using the PC tool will be slightly different than the old crop tool and will not work for all people, but for some people it will do what they used to do with the old crop tool.

    Basically, if you are one of the people who just enters width, height, and resolution, then draws a box, this should work for you.

    HOWEVER, there is an extra step (which kinda sucks). Draw a box around the whole image (quick of course). Now hold down ALT and SHIFT and grab a CORNER to resize the box. Make it the size you want, and move it around as usual. Enter or double-click to confirm crop.

    CLEARLY ADOBE IS IDIOTIC FOR NOT INCLUDING ASPECT RATIO CROPPING HERE. I would love to have the box be constrained to the aspect ratio of the dimensions specified, but hopefully that will come with an update. For what I do most of the time though (cropping to the same size and aspect ratio of the original), the method above works for me.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Perspective Crop Tool is exactly what we needed EXCEPT that it has no ratio... Well, I guess it shouldn't seen as it's 'perspective' however why can the 'perspective' tool be almost exactly the same, and not the tool I use each day, with sometimes up to 500 images. And that's just the editing.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • An alternative to the Perspective Crop Tool is to use the regular Crop Tool (with "delete pixels" unchecked). Crop approximately how you want it, using the ratio, then after cropping, choose the select/arrow tool. You now have access to the bounds of the original image. Click one corner to be in free transform mode, then right-click the image and choose "distort". You can now free-form fix your perspective.

    Of course, I still want it to be the way it was. I'm seriously considering going back to CS5...
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I’m Angry
    2
    I believe that Adobe has forgotten that Photoshop has the work PHOTO in it. I am so disgusted by CS6 that I have gone back to using CS5. My other co-workers complain all day about the crop tool, the missing Photo Package, etc. - and I just get my work done. I don't have time to fool with Adobe's 'new and improved'. I have work to do. Why do folks feel the need to 'new and improve' things that just don't need it. The CS6 version seems to have left the needs of the photographer in the dust.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I’m angry
    4
    I created an account just so I could add my voice to this thread.
    The crop tool is an absolute nightmare.
    I use photoshop all day, every day. I was excited about CS6, but unfortunately I have to go back to CS5 as the crop tool is slowing down my workload to a point where it's affecting my sanity!
    Adobe, what were you thinking? The 'classic' mode isn't the 'old behavior' at all and the perspective crop as suggested above is useless in terms of speeding up the workflow.
    Just give us back a simple crop tool that works easily and quickly with fixed ratio and resolution. How hard can that possibly be?

    You dropped the ball here. Please patch it asap.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I’m frustrated
    4
    Right on with this. We work with a lot of architecturally based work, and to crop and straight was handled swiftly under the one tool.
    Press C
    Select front image
    Drag the points to straight and DONE!
    You'd get a great new image, nice and straight, and at the same image size.
    This one - aside from the clunkiness of the basic crop tool - won't even allow me to keep my front image proportions (not final size), so it's nearly impossible to accurate crop and straighten.
    The net result is that the old way took literally 5 seconds, and the new way takes forever and requires two separate tool settings, and WAY too many apple-Zs to get the final image right.
    Adobe - sort your s#!t out - this is hopeless.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 2
    I can't believe they mark this as "answered" because someone from Adobe said (basically) "well, some people like the new crop tool".

    I've decided that this is enough of an issue for me and we've given Adobe enough time to fix it (all they would have to do is make "classic mode" ACTUALLY work in the way it used to).

    I'm going back to CS5 and not upgrading to CS6. I'm glad I used the trial instead of buying without trying. Going on 15 years of using Photoshop and this will be the first time I don't upgrade.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • lol I didn't even realise this.

    Lets start a new topic
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 3
    I bought CS6 but went back to CS5, the newly revised crop tool was a deal-breaker for me. Plus, there just isn't enough in CS6 to warrant learning everything over. On top of that, Adobe dumped the icon along the top bar to launch Bridge in CS6, again complexing something that was simple before.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 3
    Im getting tired of the behavior of crop myself and I'm only 25 years old and have no problems learning new methods... I absolutely hate the order of operations they changed the crop tool to. The perspective option was NEVER hard to find either.

    I'd love if classic mode would FULLY behave as classic mode - including cropping multiple layers where they lay.

    This question hasn't been answered.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I’m happy
    I found a way around to begin outside the picture, as you do in the Classic Mode :)
    I hope you find this tip useful .

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/105313...

    // Daniel
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 2
    Even in classic mode I am struggling with the useless new crop tool and regret upgrading. I have used PS for 12 years I am using the 'classic' mode crop setting its called classic but its not and its still a pain to use and annoying. I can't see myself upgrading again unless Adobe has a brain wave and reinstates the option of a simple easy to use straight foreword crop tool.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I joined to add my voice. Fixing stuff not broken, like Microsoft. .
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • There is a new 13.01 Photoshop update. It says that one of the issues addressed is the functionality of the crop tool. Sorry, but no improvement. Adobe seems to be ignoring this issue. Too bad.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Just bought CS6, out of fear of losing the upgrade price, and now the crop tool is all @##$^# up. What did you do???! It's completely unacceptable. I have 100s of photos to size. I had a workflow in CS4. It worked. It was fast. Not even a real classic mode. And the crop outline thing won't go away. Once it's cropped it should be gone. Why would you change the crop tool? For CHANGE SAKE? That must be it. 200 bucks, and I'm back to using CS4.

    And when I open an image, crop, and then adjust the levels, and go to do a "Save As," it wants to save it as a PSD. It makes me flatten it first. Why? I shouldn't have to flatten the image and drag down the dropdown menu and find JPEG EVERY SINGLE TIME.

    Now we have to upgrade every single year at 200 bucks a pop? And for that we will get busted crop tools?

    HELLO PHOTOSHOP - there is something called the BASICS. You have to realize that people have workflows, and need the basic tools to work the way they're supposed to. Like the crop tool. 200 bucks and it's unusable. And I'm supposed to upgrade to CS7 in the near future for 200 bucks to get more of the same?
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Mark - I agree with you about the crop tool. Entirely.

    As for saving as jpeg, you can do save-as, then type a name, then tab / j / enter. This is pretty fast.

    Alternatively (what I do), create an action that just saves as jpeg and closes, then assign it to a key/combo (I use F12). I also have "flatten all layers" as part of the action.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • PLEASE, just a simple crop tool. SIMPLICITY is what made the crop tool work so beautifully in CS4. I love it in 4. In CS6, it is unacceptable, and the crop tool is what people use the most.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Thanks, Joda. I'm already back to using CS4 as I just can't handle the crop tool.

    I must have hit a setting on accident or something because it is making me flatten the image and I'm not working with layers. I'm just making simple changes like crop and levels. I never had to flatten before. Maybe it's the lens profile correction box I checked in the RAW box? I don't think so. In CS4 it just remembered that I always save as a jpeg and that was the default setting.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • I just took for granted how easy and fast to use the old crop tool was. The photoshop designers did too, apparently. This isn't simply a cosmetic change. The tool is completely different. You took one step forward and two steps back. It's a real pain to use now. Very frustrating. And good points above about the "classic mode." It's not a real classic mode. It's as if at the last minute you threw together a modified version of the classic mode.

    I've learned a lesson here - never buy without first using the trial version. I just figured it would be the same for the core functions (like cropping).

    Photoshop, do you plan on fixing this? Giving a real classic mode?

    Thank you.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Classic mode does not fix the rotation problem. If you are accustomed to cropping from outside the upper left corner, you are automatically thrown into rotation. It's crazy. I'm sure someone wants that, but I don't. So why can't I turn it off?
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • 2
    I just called Adobe to express my concerns about how bad the new crop tool is, how frustrating it is to use, and the lady said "maybe 'YOU' don't like it," as if my input does not matter one bit.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • And I am supposed to upgrade every single year now with confidence?
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Like all other software companies, Adobe thinks new version = break something or move it somewhere else. I notice the eyedropper has moved too. Why? Because I'm accustomed to clicking it without actually looking, so naturally they've moved it so I actually have to look for it each time.

    What I really suspect is that they are the prisoners of an elite users group who "advise" them into archane features that only the elite users group wants. Seen this one before.

    Back my the video days, I saw a major equipment company driven into bankruptcy by their advisory group's ideas of what features they needed. This elite group needed features that no one else on the planet wanted.

    Just sayin'.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Well they should listen to their real-world users' feedback and provide a real classic mode. I would like an answer as to why the "classic mode" is not really a classic mode, and whether or not they plan to fix it.

    Adobe, you whiffed on both counts - 1, the new crop tool is confusing and frustrating and 2, no real classic mode. If this is a decision set in stone, then I'm done upgrading and will search out a new product.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

  • Will it ever be possible to get a CS6 update for an actual classic mode for the crop tool? The new tool, including the classic mode, is counterintuitive, takes much longer to crop things now.
    Overall the old crop tool in CS4 was MUCH better, MUCH simpler, and the user had more control.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    CS6 crop tool classic mode.
  • (some HTML allowed)
    How does this make you feel?
    Add Image
    I'm

    e.g. happy, confident, thankful, excited sad, anxious, confused, frustrated kidding, amused, unsure, silly indifferent, undecided, unconcerned

next » « previous