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Lightroom: Mark a photo as the FINAL version

Mark a photo as the FINAL version.
A way to differentiate a photo as the final version which is being used in a project.
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  • Using the existing Snapshot feature allows you to have multiple final versions of a shot.

    They are not easy to accidentally overwrite.
    They save into XMP.
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    Yes .....

    But ......
    How do I find all the images in my 100,000 database that have snapshots called say"finished".
    How do I prevent changing a flag or a keyword, so they disappear from collections of "finished" images.
    A finished image may spawn multiple children such as small jpg for web, full size tiff for printing, with different colour spaces depending on ultimate destination. I wish to be able to easily find the finished image I am looking for and / or its children. Despite the fact that Lr is built around a database, I cannot run a query in Lr to select such a set of candidates.

    The snapshot feature is very useful, but I cannot search for specific snapshots.

    There are flaws also with using Virtual Images to do something similar. The main flaw is that there is no separate xml file for each virtual image. That is the reason I have stopped using virtual images and probably should be the subject for a different thread..
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    • My personal rule is a VC is only needed if I need to see a second thumbnail for some reason (show mom a BW and Color version of a Senior Portrait). Otherwise I only use snapshots.

      My system, and your mileage may vary, is to use Snapshots with Keywords and Collections. I need to search for images, using keywords, using collections - not snapshots. When I arrive at the image, I can then interrogate its versions in Snapshot.

      Flags and Stars are very transient in my workflow - used very short term - and the world doesn't fall apart if one gets changed.

      But, as I said, your mileage may vary.
    • Feedback appreciated and our needs may be different., but I suspect not by much.

      Unfortunately Flags, Stars and VC's are the most prominent means available to a user to classify their images. Flags and Stars are unreliable, because these can be interpreted in so many different ways and may vary from shoot to shoot. Also it is too easy to change a flag or star (eg press a number by mistake). I have ruined a full set of stars in a large folder of 600 images by hitting the wrong key by mistake. So painful.

      VC's are also not a solution.

      The snapshot feature is very good and more people should be aware of it.

      A Finish Flag, properly implemented with lock development changes, lock metadata changes or both, combined with an ability to search based on this flag would add even more usability and power to your collections.

      A keyword may help you find it, but will not stop you changing it by mistake.

      I am not sure if there much more I can contribute to this discussion. I have invested time on it to-day because it is something so basically simple but has such a large potential in terms of the usability of Lr.
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    Rikk, that is a great idea.

    But is that not just the same as publish. When an image is published the location, date and time are added to the history similar to a snapshot.

    Where both might suffer is there in no way of minimising deletion by accident. A lock could warn the user to click a box before deletion or further editing.
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    Rikk,

    Between snapshots, virtual copies, flags, color labels, stars, keywords and collection, yes, one can establish a system for marking photos as final version. But that's not the point.

    Because this process can vary so much from person to person and also from shoot to shoot, the point is to have something consistent that doesn't include jumping through 10 hoops to mark a photo as final.

    Once i know I finished working on an image, I shouldn't have to add a snapshot, create a virtual copy, flag it as pick, add 5 stars, mark it with the green label, add the keyword FINAL and add it to KEEP IT DO NOT TOUCH collection.

    And even if I did, which of these criteria would I use to filter my catalog to find only the final versions of the image? And what if I happened to skip a step in the above elaborated process?

    And what if after I decide to do something else to the same image? I create a(nother) virtual copy and undo everything? Unmark it as pick, remove the green label, remove the snapshot, lower the star rating, ensure to remove it from the final collection, etc. Do you see how it can get crazy really fast?

    The (many) benefits of having this feature have been detailed by many so far. The original idea was posted over 4 years ago! That's basically an eternity. Back then, the iPhone 4 was the hot new thing and Photoshop CS5 was the current version.

    By now, this should either start to be implemented or this thread should be deleted to spare people some considerable frustration.
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    • Thanks for the link, but this (Photoshop Feedback) is a forum for suggesting features to be included in the actual product, rather than rely on third party tools that may or may not do what is needed.

      Everybody who took time to contribute to this thread did so because they want this feature to be built into Lightroom in the same sleek and functional way like all the other tools and features.

      If i want to filter my library, I shouldn't have to think... oh, for virtual copies I can use the filter bar, but for snapshots, I need to install some plugin, read its documentation, then invoke it from some hidden place in the menus.

      Seriously now.
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    The important point for many of us is lockability of develop settings, to prevent accidental edits to finished photos.

    Being able to filter out finished images would be a useful added bonus.
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    Now that Adobe have spent 2 years working on improving what is under the bonnet, they need to seriously work on Usability. This is a simple example of a small feature having major usability benefits.

    I have a whole bunch of good suggestions to make, but I am not going to put the energy or effort into documenting or describing them, if I like this one it takes 4 years and still no progress.

    If Adobe are serious about usability then I am happy to share my ideas. The usability of the entire Creative Suite is seriously below par.
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